Sterling Hayden - a very interesting choice of actor, to say the least, to play a commie-hating lunatic
Dr Strangelove is, in my humble opinion, one of the most near-perfect movies ever made.
The only wee fault I can really pick with it is the fluoride thing
Fluoride is a fucking poison after all
As a fellow loon put it…
- If fluoride leaks into the air, it's a toxin.
- If fluoride leaks into rivers, it's a toxin.
- If States and Corporations put fluoride in your water, learn to love it, it's good for you.
And it always struck me as peculiar that a fully paid-up conspiraloon like Kubrick would so effectively damn anyone who has conceptual problems with drinking poison
Thanks to including a fluoride-obsessed nutcase, who is responsible for the destruction of the entire world, in such an excellent film Kubrick helped to kick objections to fluoridisation into touch for the next forty years
And because of Strangelove and because (most) British water supplies didn’t have fluorine-based crap dumped into them, most people in the UK haven’t been too concerned about the fluoride thing
Maybe we should now
Those twunts Gordon Brown and Alan Johnson are set on making fluoridisation of our water compulsory and are putting public money into promoting it
The almost perfect coincidence of timing with a government drive to do away with bottled water is, no doubt, entirely accidental
Even if the people who have campaigned passionately against fluoridisation of water for decades are wrong and fluoride doesn’t fuck up peoples' bones, brain chemistry and teeth, it defies common sense to believe that forcing the entire population to swallow a chemical just to prevent holes in kids' teeth, a chemical which is only supposed to work when applied externally anyway, is a good idea
Of course, the really interesting question is why do so many people in authority have such a hard-on for involuntarily medicating us all through our water supply?
Anyway, here’s a 30 minute long introduction to the Fluoridisation issue. It’s the best of the dissident material out there that I’ve seen to date and covers such amusing subjects as Edward Bernays ( = total c^nt) and the manufacture of consent, how to dispose of otherwise hard to handle industrial toxic waste by making people drink it, and the fine art of neutralising legitimate, science-based objections by using the power of the media to smear objectors as lunatics…
And here’s another film which isn’t anywhere near as comprehensive but does feature some superb Australasian accents
And if all this talk of fluoride, aspartame and all that other toxic filth governments and corporations are putting into our food and water for our benefit (a doped brain is a happy brain) really does scare the daylights out of you why not consider drawing those harmful toxins out of your body through your feet?
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PS
A top quote from the New Scientist at the end of this Q&A page on rumours about armies sticking compounds of that other fun halogen, bromine, into soldiers' tea…
“In the 19th century, bromide salts were used widely as sedatives to treat everything from epilepsy to sleeplessness. The bromide salts were said to "reduce the excitability of the brain". The normal dose was between 5 and 30 grains, which were taken several times a day (there are about 13 grains per gram). In the 19th century it was common for children of the upper classes to be flattered by the gift of a personal salt cellar for use at meals. They were led to believe this indicated their increasing status within the family group. The salt was in fact mixed with bromide to make the child better behaved.
Bromides are a sedative and the libido reduction is a side-effect. The use of bromide salts as a sleeping draught appears in the novels of Emile Zola, indicating their effects were recognised at some time in the 19th century.”
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having devoted much time to the Ripper question i still wonder if it's at all possible that Kubrick over-egged the character deliberately to get him through as he's 'clearly designed to attack fluoride doubters', with the hope that such an over-the-top performance would actually resonate and engender debate on the subject of fluoridation rather than causing dismissal out-of-hand
just one of those things we might never know - a plot to discredit fluoride dissent, or a plot to get fluoride dissent out to the mainstream, or a plot to be interpreted both ways by different audiences ?
wish i knew
The fact that the guy who played Ripper was a well known and not especially repentant member of Commie Club might be a clue to what Kubrick was up to
not a very good one though as I don't know either
so if the actor was in fact pro communism whilst playing an anticommie, then that would make the anti-antifluoride tirades into pro-antifluoride tirades ?
danger my astro-brain circuits are melting
mel-ting
treat yourself to a couple of litres of cool, refreshing Diet Coke and a packet of Airwaves - you'll be feeling right as rain again in no time
Gordon Brown(stuff) is pushing for fluoridation of water? Geez. Once again I have to say shame on those idiot brits that thought "once sadist and mass murderer bLiar went that thinger were going to get better under Brown(stuff)."
Well once again your wrong Brits.
How many time does one need to be slapped until one realises someone's kicking the crap outta you? It certainly ain't gonna be better under cocaine cameron or that LibDem leader who is rather inconsequential.
The case AGAINST fluoridation is quite well substantiated.
I would hope some knowledgeable activists would sabotage in some way the pipelines carrying mild poisons into our homes.
Topical application of fluoride MAY be beneficial, but ingesting it? I feel that certainly won't be beneficial even when one begins to imagine the biological processing of such a unique and hard anion.
I know the chemist Dr Anne Marie Helmenstine (the big cheese on about.com's chemistry site) was doing some research into it a couple of years ago, having adopted the same kind of understanding as myself about it.
I'll try and see what her latest findings on the subject are.
On a technicality, I don't think soldiers would be putting bromine in each others tea. Bromide yes, but not bromine. The two are quite different.
And yes, Dr. Strangelove was IMO a masterpiece. No Lenny Henry in sight (surprizingly enough)
On a technicality, I don't think soldiers would be putting bromine in each others tea. Bromide yes, but not bromine. The two are quite different.
oooh, you're such a chemist
and, of course, technically correct
I will, however, choose to use my 'bromides contain bromine' card at this point as now seems like a good time
I just have a 'thing' about companies sticking certain halogen compounds, with all their fab neurological effects, into our food
and just in case poor old chlorine is feeling left out let's not forget that people are being encouraged to heap this crap into their coffee
to my knowledge no-one has yet come up with a way to make and market astatine flavoured milkshakes, probably only on account of the fact that only about a spoonful of the stuff exists on Earth at any one point in time
the reason why I have a particular dislike for the halogens dates back to an unfortunate experience I once had with a periodic table which I don't wish to relive by recounting here - certainly not without drinking a cup of doctored tea first
/ 'enhances' original post slightly
It certainly ain't gonna be better under cocaine cameron or that LibDem leader who is rather inconsequential.
when you say 'inconsequential' I presume what you were trying to say was 'sexual tyrannosaur'
"I will, however, choose to use my 'bromides contain bromine' card at this point as now seems like a good time" - to which I will smile and nod like a dampened D string.
I just have a 'thing' about companies sticking certain halogen compounds, with all their fab neurological effects, into our food I guess then our ilk deserve an Aaronovitchian slurr to be repeatedly flagellate us back to what they call sanity.
Just out of curosity, I wonder what watr supply the unmagestic majesty is on? or what kind of sucralose containing foods the Rothschilds eat? and which nuclear dump site Gates and Buffet live beside?
I agree, if there's a class of compounds you DONT want to introduce into goodstuffs, its alkylhalides!
"Clegg tots up sex encounters in GQ interview"
Holy bananas!
Got any of that doctored tea left mate? - I've got a sudden urge to drink some.
Hate to be the dissenting voice, but I've always found dr strangelove completely pish, not very funny and not very serious either.
Failsafe did a much better job with the same source material. compare Walter Mathau's chilling herman kahn figure with the comedy nazi's or the dutifully robotic pilot with slim picken's comedy cowpoke.
No contest in my book.
You wouldn't be a fan of Sydney Lumet's work by any chance? You closet 70's lover you
v big fan
Was this speech after he was forced to drink tap water?
In unrelated news: some nice logos.
And the truth is just a phone-call away...
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