Showing posts with label 9/11. Show all posts
Showing posts with label 9/11. Show all posts

Monday, September 12, 2011

7/7, Alex Cox and The Parallax View

Earlier on today I posted links to a couple of videos - one about 7/7, the other about 9/11

A few issues came up, either in the posts themselves or as comments underneath the posts, which have just converged for me in a nicely synchronisitic way

In my post about Tom Secker's 7/7 documentary I mentioned that there was a time, 15 or 20 years ago, when the State Broadcasting Company would occasionally air material of a parapolitical nature which nowadays it wouldn't touch with a barge pole. The example I chose to link to was the Timewatch documentary on Operation Gladio broadcast in 1992

In a comment underneath my post about James Corbett's excellent 9/11 satire I drew a parallel with the montage at the end of Corbett's video and the brainwashing scene that pops out of nowhere in the middle of The Parallax View - made back in the 70s when off the hook conspiraloonery and six minute long photo montages appeared with satisfying regularity in major motion picture productions (that decade gets an undeservedly bad rap imho)

That would be this scene...


Here's the nice convergence

Whilst watching that scene from The Parallax View I recalled an interesting introduction film director Alex Cox (maker of the 'intense' Repo Man) gave to The Parallax View when it was aired on Cox's Moviedrome series back in the late 1980s/ early 1990s

And, joy of joys, the Cox introduction is currently available on Youtube...



That was shown on BBC2 in 1993

The chances of Cox getting away with stuff like that on the State Broadcasting Company are now absolutely, no doubt about it whatsoever, fuck all

Which is a shame as Cox had one or two things to say about 7/7 in his blog which, in turn, kicked off an extended debate on the now defunct Alex Cox forum. That was back in the distant days of 2005 when the Official 7/7 Narrative was still being defended by 'official' 7/7 survivors engaged in frontal assaults, rather than the more indirect defence of the Official Narrative being mounted today by peddlers of perfidious harm and faulty arguments

Cox's original 7/7 article and the subsequent debate are now preserved for whatever passes for posterity these days on the J7 website here

I mention all this because it's only when, and fortunately I'm old enough to do this, I concentrate and think back to how wide the range of permitted public discourse used to be, in comparison to today, that I realise just how much has been taken away from us

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Reasons why I (for the moment anyway) love James Corbett pt.22

Here follows a master class on how to succinctly demolish an Official Narrative, without knocking up one of your own...
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Wednesday, July 13, 2011

Charles Veitch has such lovely teeth


When I first went to university in the early 1980s I got to know one group of students, all ex private schoolboys from well to do backgrounds, who were members of the Socialist Workers Party. You could tell they were working class at heart, if not in background, by the donkey jackets and Doc Martens they wore


The 1984 Miners’ Strike was in full, bad-tempered, swing at the time. My SWP acquaintances would regularly zip up to potential confrontational hot spots with a view to getting stuck into police lines, in solidarity with their striking ‘comrades’

These passionate revolutionaries subsequently got their degrees and went off to work in accountancy, banking and legal firms; with a view to partnership and rearing the next generation of middle-class dickhead student activist

The miners, of course, all ended up on their arse and I doubt if many of them went on to become partners in City law firms

My mistrust of activists from privileged backgrounds consequently goes back almost 30 years

An ex-girlfriend of mine had an expression for rich kids who get down with the common people for a time, often fuck things up, and then return to pursuing their own genuine class interest. She’d spot one a mile off and mutter ‘down at heel, a mouthful of dental steel’

They do have such lovely, well-maintained teeth

Which brings me back onto the subject of Charles ‘Charlie’ Veitch


Veitch's latest outrageously satirical Youtube video. I got as far as 3:22. If he stops being a cock anywhere before the end of the clip could someone let me know


For the reasons outlined above, I freely admit that I was prejudiced against Veitch from the moment I first became aware of his existence

On the other hand, he did start off his Internet career by promoting the kind of subversive, non violent approach to activism that I personally warm to

So, I gave him the benefit of the doubt

...right up until he took a great big dump on the 9/11 Truth Movement, and the conspiratorial view of the world in general, a few days back

People have commented here and elsewhere that it does not matter that a solitary 9/11 Truther has publicly recanted his conspiratorial views

On one level that’s true. Veitch is not a 9/11 researcher and after listening to his reasons for accepting the Official 9/11 Narrative it is clear that he is either not very informed about 9/11 or pretending to be not very informed about 9/11. He is simply recycling pre-existing arguments in support of the Official Narrative and offering no good reasons for an informed 9/11 sceptic to adjust their opinion

However, the Veitch recantation may be useful to promoters of Official Narratives in other ways

I have seen no evidence which conclusively proves that Veitch is a conscious cognitive infiltrator. However, Veitch himself freely admits that he changed his views on 9/11 as a result of being part of a BBC production on the subject of 9/11 conspiracy theorists

So, at the very least, Veitch himself has been the successful subject of a deliberate act of cognitive infiltration

Which makes him a very special little muffin indeed

I cannot think of another case of a high profile ‘conspiracy theorist’ successfully being converted back to a non-conspiratorial world view

Praises be! The pickle has been turned back into a cucumber. The cult fanatic has been successfully deprogrammed back to being a ‘normal’ person

The BBC is going to make a meal out of this conversion in its 9/11 Conspiracy Road (to Damascus) Trip, big time

There are parallels with the BBC’s earlier 7/7 Conspiracy Files production, which also featured a leading (sic.) conspiracy theorist who hadn't been on the scene for very long before the programme was made and who was more than happy to be presented as a delusional idiot on national television

At a time when the resources available for investigative journalism are so meagre most productions have to be put together in a matter of weeks, the BBC still manages to devote months, sometimes years to the preparation of hit pieces targeted at conspiracy theorists

And the cherry on the cake for any self-respecting BBC hit piece worth the resources lavished upon it is the inclusion of at least one fool, whose ego is greater than his intellect, willing to offer himself up for ritual sacrifice

When all is said and done, no-one has ever became a Truther or stopped being a Truther as a result of watching the BBC. The service provided by the BBC is to provide viewers with narratives that at least appear to explain what’s going on in the world. It doesn't really matter if those narratives stack up or not, as the target audience won’t be subjecting those narratives to critical scrutiny

Contrary to the standard BBC psychobabble, there is nothing comforting about a conspiratorial world view. The average television viewer probably understands that, albeit subconsciously, and their psychological defence mechanisms cut in. The BBC exists to nurture and feed those defence mechanisms


Personally, I’m going to continue to keep an eye on Veitch’s antics because there’s more to come, that’s for sure. I’m going to do so, partly for pure entertainment value but mostly because I’m fascinated by the pathology of the cognitive disruption game

Thus far, my gut feel is that the sophistication of the mass of on-line loons is currently developing faster than the tactics and stunts being rolled out to deal with them - the controlled demolition of Charles Veitch included




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Friday, September 11, 2009

911's A Lie - Total Pwnage

Deek Jackson's on form...

911's A Lie - Total Pwnage - The Single



and the video...






(Yes, I said I was f*cking off for a bit but posting the odd link don't count)

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Tuesday, March 17, 2009

Well, *I* think it's a bit strange...

It's a central tenet of 9/11 Conspiranaut Mythology that all of the debris from the WTC site was whisked off with suspicious haste and scrapped in China before any independent investigators could subject it to forensic examination

Well, except the five tonnes of the stuff someone has dumped in a quiet part Christchurch...




next to the unfortunately named Kilmore Street Bridge of all places



The pile of sacred scrap is positioned in a shady corner which is a bugger to photograph in the contrasty Kiwi light but it looks something like this...



Erected barely a year after 9/11, in a location with biff all connection with New York and its firefighters as far as I can tell, there's very possibly an interesting back story to this sculpture but I haven't the faintest idea what it is...

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Saturday, September 27, 2008

Monday, August 04, 2008

Mainstream Conspiraloons - #456 Sy Hersh, #457 Keith Olbermann

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I find the Hersh piece particularly interesting as it repeats the lie that no US leader, and by implication no other leader of a 'free world' country, would knowingly make a decision that would result in the death of fellow countryfolk

  • It's a lie because it assumes that members of ruling elites give a damn about people outside of their class, just because they live in the same country
  • It's also a lie because, by necessity, people in the business of war routinely make decisions which they know will result in the death of fellow countrymen. Every time a politician or general commits troops to combat they know some of those troops will die as a result of that decision.

    Some simple maths, combined with belief in a higher purpose, will dictate whether those leaders consider those casualties 'a price worth paying'.

    A decision made somewhat easier by the fact that someone else will invariably be doing the paying

So...

Plus 10 Conspiraloon Loyalty Points to Hersh for breaking that particular story about Dick Cheney and pals brainstorming a false flag operation in Iran

Minus 9 points for qualifying it with a suggestion that it didn't happen because Dick Cheney and pals gave a shit about the potential casualties

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Saturday, July 19, 2008

Charlton Broooker revisited

Cheers to anon for sharing a link to a reply in The Guardian to that pile of sh*t published by Charlton Brooker last week...




That critical mass of people who reject the blanket, stochastic treatment of
everything that happens in the world as being stuff that 'just happens' because everyone in charge of things is supposedly an idiot (except for the Islamic terrorists, obviously) - as peddled by smug bell-ends like Charlton - is almost there

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...and yes, I appreciate that calling someone like Charlton a big, daft, floppy cock is no substitute for reasoned argument and evidence


Charlton Brooker


but, every now and again, the fact you are considered fair game, as an individual or as part of a group, to be slandered as having mental problems, holding racist views or being some kind of ghoulish jackal for the simple act of questioning some of the crap you're told by proven liars is a bit too rich to digest .

After all, we're all only human

...except for the reptilian alien overlords all of us conspiracy theorists believe in, obviously

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edit: but wait, there's more...


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Monday, July 14, 2008

Charlton Brooker, one serious tool


A little something for fellow Loons who've recommended the output of journalist/ commentator Charlie (nee Charlton) Brooker to me over the years...




(Charlton is the bloke who went on tele last year and sneered at all the people withdrawing their life savings from Northern Rock for being idiots)

Charlton is a little put out that he's started to bump into 'intelligent, level-headed people' who have doubts about the official narrative of 9/11

Only they can't be 'intelligent, level-headed people' because Charlton doesn't share their views

It's possible that the timing of Brooker's piece has something to do with the recent BBC WTC7 documentary, which I take to be excellent news

I think it's reasonable to conclude that more people now have doubts about 9/11 than did last year and by next year even more people will be on board

As for Brooker's piece itself - he shows no genuine wit or originality and quotes strictly from the pre-existing script about parapolitical conspiracies being impossible because no organisation would be competent enough to keep a large-scale conspiracy secret

All very tedious, and increasingly desperate, fare

And an interesting exercise in circular logic from someone who's supposed to be clever...


'You can't have found evidence of a conspiracy because if the conspiracy existed someone would have found some evidence'


or rather, what Charlton is really saying...


'...one of my journalistic-media-whore mates would have found some evidence'


and if any Brooker fans have any doubts about where he's coming from and who he's batting for, the last few lines of his piece make that pretty clear...


"Embrace a conspiracy theory and suddenly you're part of a gang sharing privileged information; your sense of power and dignity rises a smidgen and this troublesome world makes more sense, for a time. You've seen through the matrix! At last you're alive! You ARE the Emperor of Pluto after all!

Except - ahem - you're only deluding yourself, your majesty. Because to believe the "system" is trying to control you is to believe it considers you worth controlling in the first place. The reality - that "the man" is scarcely competent enough to control his own bowels, and doesn't give a toss about you anyway - is depressing and emasculating; just another day in the cardboard box factory. And that's no place for an imaginary emperor, now, is it?"



A stunning, insightful revelation which will no doubt come as a great comfort to anyone around the world who's been imprisoned for their views, works in a sweatshop or has lost the occasional limb in an airstrike


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Sunday, July 13, 2008

The BBC, respecting its audience's intelligence since 1922 - pt2

This is a video of a chap called Barry Jennings








Barry worked in WTC7 and was unlucky enough to get trapped in WTC7 for a few hours before it collapsed on 9/11


Barry featured heavily in the BBC Conspiracy Files documentary last week about the collapse of WTC7

What wasn't at all clear was what the makers of the documentary were trying to tell us with the clips of Barry they showed.

Barry's account was heavily edited and the context of what he was saying was not properly explained. An attempt was certainly made, however, to leave viewers with the impression that Barry's account of his experiences on 9/11, whatever they actually were, had been misrepresented by 9/11 conspiracy theorists


If you take the time to play the above two-part Youtube video of an unedited interview with Barry things are a lot clearer - and get particularly interesting four minutes into the second part

What Barry is saying is that, on 9/11, WTC7 suffered from a series of internal explosions and started disintegrating internally before WTC1 collapsed and damaged WTC7

If Barry's account is accurate WTC7 was not destroyed as the result of two airliners hitting the twin towers

Of course, all the usual caveats about placing too much faith in any eye witness testimony, for or against any position you hold, or trusting anything put out by the Loose Change crew apply

As they do with...



This is a video of a chap called John Schroeder






John was a New York fireman working in WTC1 on the morning of 9/11


John has lots of interesting things to say about what he saw in WTC1 and believes that the lower levels of the building had been badly damaged by something other than the plane strike 'eighty floors above'

John reportedly lost five of his immediate workmates that day, as well as 40% of his lung capacity and maybe some of his marbles from breathing in toxic crap.

It would be interesting to see if any BBC television producers or any other conspiracy theory debunkers would have the cheek to accuse John of being an insensitive ghoulish jackal or a friend of the terrorists for expressing doubts about the official narrative of a terrorist atrocity.

Come to think of it, if what the likes of John and Barry are saying is true it's the BBC television producers who are the insensitive ghoulish jackals

Actually, they'd be something much worse than that


John has not featured heavily in any episodes of the BBC Conspiracy Files

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Saturday, July 12, 2008

The BBC, respecting its audience's intelligence since 1922

This is a picture of a chap called Mark Loizeaux




Mark Loizeaux runs one of the world's leading demolition companies, Controlled Demolition Incorporated, and holds the world record for bringing down the largest steel structure, the J L Hudson building in Detroit (WTC1 and 2 apparently didn't count when the records were being handed out)

Mark featured heavily in the BBC Conspiracy Files documentary last week about the collapse of WTC7 on 9/11





Mark explained that WTC7 couldn't have been brought down as the result of a deliberately planned demolition, even though the collapse looked like a deliberately planned demolition, because an operation like that...


'would take months to design and months to prepare the structure for the placement of charges'


requiring...


'hundreds of explosive charges along with miles of initiating cable and miles more detonating cord'


and thermate charges couldn't have been used to deliberately take down WTC7 because Mark couldn't see...


'how you could possibly get all of the columns to melt through at the same time'


Mark clearly has a point. Without months of meticulous planning and poring over architectural plans, more months of placing hundreds of charges with geometrical care, and the use of sophisticated firing mechanisms which ensured that the charges were detonated with milliseconds of accuracy, you'd have to be out of your box to think anyone could have taken WTC7 down with such precision

Not when someone could have achieved the same level of precision just by running around the building and setting a few desks on fire



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