Tory Leader and (presumably) one day future Prime Minister, David Cameron has just spent a few days living with an Islamic family in Birmingham and has written an account of his adventure on his webcameron blog.
The part that caught my eye was this bit and it’s far from subtle use of the ‘D Word’
But there’s another side to this. Even accepting the point about language and the need for the media to think and act responsibly, do these conversations show that there is a problem amongst the Muslim community of accepting what has happened with 7/7 and other plots? Put simply is there an issue of denial?
In some parts of the community, yes. In the mosque and elsewhere I got the familiar depressing questions about who was really responsible for 9/11 and even 7/7. Dig a bit deeper and it all comes out. “CIA plot…Jews told to leave the twin towers” - even when it comes to 7/7 “how do we know the suicide bomber videos are real and not fakes?” Even if this is a view held by 5 or 10 per cent of British muslims - and I suspect it is at least that – this is a real problem which we have all got to get to grips with.
I’m not a Muslim and I have no particular affinity with Muslims any more than any other ethnic or religious group in this country. I am, however, conscious that I could be part of the next group that is demonized once the Muslims have been 'dealt with'. I am also one of those deniers that Cameron is referring to. So I am not particularly impressed with the suggestion that ‘denial’ of the official accounts of 7/7 or 9/11 is a faith or ethnicity related issue.
And it's worth pointing out that the 'deniers', Muslim and non-Muslim alike, are not pretending that terrorism isn't taking place and they are certainly not supporting it. They are not even denying that there are some very shady characters encouraging terrorism. They are exercising their right to question the state-endorsed conspiracy theories. And the evidence supporting the 'official' conspiracy theories is nowhere near as compelling as Cameron implies.
I have issues with the official account of 7/7 more because of what we haven’t been told, as opposed to what we have been told. The primary cause for concern is an absence of information and anyone daft enough to stitch a conspiracy theory together based on gaps in knowledge is playing a fool’s game. However, mistrusting official accounts, particularly when there is a track record of evasiveness and deceit, is not the same thing.
Given that the security forces have repeatedly claimed that the alleged 7/7 bombers acted independently, a genuinely independent public inquiry could be held without compromising their intelligence efforts. A properly executed inquiry that brought more evidence into the public domain would be the best way to ‘get to grips’ with the denial issue.
9/11 is a different kettle of fish to 7/7 as there is plenty of evidence, as opposed to gaps in evidence, that we have not be told the straight story of what happened that day.
Cameron pulls a particularly wanky stunt with the line
‘Dig a bit deeper and it all comes out. “CIA plot…Jews told to leave the twin towers’
This is exactly the same trick played by the BBC’s recent attempt to debunk 9/11 conspiracy theories
Many Americans of Jewish extraction died on 9/11 and I have yet to encounter anyone, Muslim or non-Muslim, who denies this. However, the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported shortly after 9/11 that Israeli employees of a company called Odigo were warned away from the Twin Towers. It's still on-line and can be found here
The fact that five Israelis, at least some of whom had intelligence connections, were arrested whilst filming the WTC attack may also be relevant. They appear to have been expecting it
None of this is the same thing as proving that Israeli intelligence was behind 9/11. Just that it may have known about it in advance. There are some reports that the Israelis may have actually issued warnings to the US government.
Whatever the truth about Israeli prior knowledge of 9/11, the fact is that there are reports that some people were warned. This is not a conspiracy theory or an act of denial. The people saying it are just better informed, or more honest, than Cameron. Muddying the pond by chucking in implications of anti-semitism is plain dishonest.
Mind you, it’s no surprise that Cameron is talking out of his arse in support of the establishment of which he is such a solid part. Not when he takes advice from people like the truly scary warmonger and Blair-worshipper Michael Gove – a self-proclaimed and published expert on Islamic terror who ‘has in fact never lived or travelled in any Islamic country, knows little about Islamic history or theology, and shows no sign of having met or talked to any Muslims’
Michael Gove's tour de force 'Celsius 7/7' - a frightening expose on how and why Western society is now COMPLETELY UNDER MUSLIM CONTROL!!! Any stylistic similarities with past publications such as Der Sturmer are entirely coincidentalAnyone who retains any residual faith in the state of democracy in this country might like ponder on just how little choice we as a nation are going to be presented with come the next general election
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Let's hope nobody mentions the overt acts of terrorism by the British state and the very many well documented examples of covert State-sponsored terrorism just across the water in Northern Ireland.
One of the men that that presided over much of the State sponsored terrorism in Northern Ireland, Jonathan Evans, is now top dog at MI5 being, as the post was, resurrected on Easter Sunday.
Still, you wouldn't expect Cannabis Cameron, or any relative of the Head of the State, in the service of whom this pernicous collusion and complicity in terrorism is commissioned and undertaken, to ever admit this to be the case, even though it just so happens to be the truth.
Deniable ops? You betcha!
The irony is that Cameron's own Ask Cameron webshite is populated by a whole load of people who don't buy the official story of 9/11 as documented by the 9/11 Commission Report.
On a related note.... former CIA director George Tenet has a new book out, At the Center of the Storm, in which Tenet reveals how he flew to Crawford in late August 2001 and briefed Bush on the threat from domestic Al Qaeda cells. Nothing amazing about that, save for the fact that his revelations mean Tenet committed perjury before the 9/11 Commission when he denied meeting with Bush the month before the attack.
I had a stab at posting a comment on the discussion about Cameron's comments on the 'This is London' site...
http://tinyurl.com/3yaqqq
Just to correct one of the myths that Cameron is perpetuating. Many Americans of Jewish extraction died on 9/11 and I have yet to encounter anyone, Muslim or non-Muslim, who denies this. However, the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported shortly after 9/11 that Israeli employees of a company called Odigo were warned away from the Twin Towers. It's still on-line and can be found by searching 'Haaretz 9/11 Odigo'.
It has yet to come up under the heading "Here's a sample of the latest views published"
I'd love to know how their sampling process works
Just been watching bbc news 10 o'clock with a piece by one of the commentators metaphorically fellating Brown. If he's going to do that sort of thing, he ought to swallow rather than allow us all to see the result dribbling down his chin. Anyway, here's the chap .
yup, alz's twat page is a fine resource
I'd also like to add this horrible little man. He gives economists a bad name.
Knock yourself out
but you do mean a worse name shurely?
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