Saturday, July 12, 2008

David on David

A mercifully pandimensional lizard-free extract from David Icke speaking at Haltemprice last Sunday, where he goes into the hobbies of some of the people supporting David Davis' noble and principled stand against Big Brother...



Icke includes a little chunk of material I pushed out onto to the Interweb which was subsequently ripped-off by The Independent

A few people asked me at time why I wasn't pissy about not receiving any acknowledgment

The answer is that I'm just satisfied that the connection I identified received some publicity. This is a personal blog and I have neither the time nor inclination to maintain a level, consistency or quality of output which would merit wide scale attention. I am happy with the way things are

What I am not happy with is that basic investigative research into a national event such as the Haltemprice By Election is left to a handful of people tapping on keyboards in their spare rooms and a bloke who, for reasons I can only guess at, blends that basic research with talk of alien overlords in human bodysuits

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40 comments:

Anonymous said...

David Icke is an odd case indeed.He mixes the bizarre and the fantastic with the possible and the probable.
I just watched a tiny clip of that video,,,ol Dave is a walking sci fi book.

The stuff about chipping people is of course absolutely correct,you can even invest in a company that specializes in chipping people.



specializes in chipping people

a subsidiary of Digital Angel.


CIA guys being "patched" however was not believable!

Anonymous said...

The lizard thing works though, doesn't it? I mean, he's still alive.

Anonymous said...

I like Ike though.A lot of stuff he says is spot on plus it´s pretty entertaining.
I´ve never read any of his books.He makes some good points though in that Google video.

Stef said...

The lizard thing works though, doesn't it? I mean, he's still alive.

lol

The Antagonist said...

The lizard thing works though, doesn't it? I mean, he's still alive.

That's why he's an honorary member of the Do Nothing Revolutionary Brigade.

His membership, along with that of all other honorary members, will expire on 21st December 2012.

Anonymous said...

21st December 2012.

is that when the Mayan calendar stops?

anyway why the fuck are more of those cctv cameras not being smashed or spraypainted?
power to the people.

Stef said...

1. Yes. Fans of online Messiahs will be well-aware that something nice will happen then and there's no need to get to worried about all the bad things happening in the world in the interim

2. Probably something to do with the things that are being put in our food, television programs and mobile phones. You can, however, simulate the giddy thrill of destroying costly but eminently replaceable surveillance equipment
here

Anonymous said...

Speed Cameras Dot Org


anyway "the internet is mightier than the sword"

ziz said...

Some of us had a jaundiced view of the PR outfit - BBC5 Live phone in 1 hr, BBC4 Women's Hour - 20 mins, BBC 4 You and Yours 1 Hour, BBC 4 Any Questions 1 1/2 hours repeated plus BBC 4 Any Answers .. sifficient to have it criticised on feedback this week.

BBC answer - well there was no-one to "balance" the debate , if someone had stood for Labopur /Lib Dems well we would have talked to them .

Worry not Stef, your efforts are appreciatd, they are never going to love you in MSM newsrooms..

First time seen Icke in full flow .. why, oh why oh why does he have to use such bad language ?

Anonymous said...

I suppose when your a big enough asshole then your karmic retribution is,,

I suppose when your a big enough asshole then your karmic retribution is,,

Tony said...

Mad Cow-Girl - The Official Monster Raving Loony Party 412 votes

David Icke - No party listed 110 votes

Stef said...

why, oh why oh why does he have to use such bad language ?

fuck knows

Antipholus Papps said...

They're actually shape-shifting pan-dimensional reptiles, no suits are required at all. Icke's an odd one - the book of his I read, starts with seemingly impeccable research into the banking con, old European bloodlines still ruling like Kings and so forth, Cheney's almost laughably blatant war-profiteering and so on and so on; he ends the book with Buddhist sentiments I have no argument with and will loudly applaud. But, in the middle, are the monstrous Annanuki lizards. I wondered for a while whether this ex-BBC presenter was a planted disinformation agent, but hadn't considered it as a survival tactic! I think Mr Icke had an intense spiritual experience and a gasket was blown - ancient archetypes wrap up his research into a coherent if implausable whole. But he has humour about his situation and that's generally a sign of sanity. I think David Icke should read some Robert Anton Wilson books.

Dr. Who said...

Ahh David Icke.Think y'r on the money with the survival strategy Stef,,came to the same conclusion.Don't necessarily discount it either-there's more to this world than meets the eye..Nikola Tesla claimed to have regular communication with ET's on the roof of his 5th Ave lab.-many would consider this laughable-but couldn't begin to fathom his work.love y'r blog dude.x
p.s.Hitler was predicted to come with the likeness/manner of a COMEDIAN-even down to the moustache(Ravenscroft,Spear of Destiny)Touche.?

Dr.Who said...

p.s. i think Robert anton Wilson should read some David Icke books! x.

lwtc247 said...

RAW. Isn't he the one who laughs at conspiracy twits? Or was the interview I saw with him a message beamed into my head from the guys back on Nirabu?

(signal jamming hat not avail that day)

Anonymous said...

"They're actually shape-shifting pan-dimensional reptiles, no suits are required at all. "

Are we meant to construe what he wrote about the lizards literally, then?

For years I've construed it metaphorically. Weird.

Just for the record: if I say someone is a 'snake in the grass'; I don't mean that he is an actual snake and that he's in some grass.

Stef said...

Are we meant to construe what he wrote about the lizards literally, then?

Well, according to 'Honest' Jon Ronson who made a documentary about Icke...

David Icke: The Lizards and the Jews

Icke really does appear to mean what he say

Stef said...

... and genuine humour does count for a lot

Antipholus Papps said...

RAW laughed at everything! And wrote numerous books based on his work researching the Illuminati. But as much as anything his books seem to be about belief, the effect of our assumptions on everything we experience, and how to program and experience different realities, none of which are any more or less 'real' than anything else people take for granted. Oh, and he died in January so won't be reading any David Icke I should hazard.

Icke really does appear to mean what he says

Yes he does! Indeed there's a chapter in Tales from the Time Loop (for that is the book I read)called something like: 'You don't really mean they're lizards do you?... Er, yes!'

Not primates ruled by the lower brain stem, not thinly veiled anti-semitic prejudice (though he does have a pop at Israelis for being largely Hungarian), he states very clearly that he literally means shape-shifting pan-dimensional reptilians, who have ruled the world since the days of Babylon and Lemuria.

He has a very annoying habit of citing his other books in the footnotes though. Citing yourself to back up your own arguments doesn't wholly convince.

lwtc247 said...

Antipholus Papps my exposure to RAW is minuimal, as I perhaps jumped to a conclusion about him from that interview. Maybe I say it in the wrong light. Snakes and grass and all that ;)

P.S. I believe Icke genuinely believes what he says and he's make a damn good bloke to befriend than the majority of Brits, even if he's said some 'unusual' things in the past. Ickes' the conspiraloon for me I'm afraid - even if he thinks my faith is barmy.

lwtc247 said...

Maybe I saw him [RAW] in the wrong light. I'll check him out some other time again - a kind of 'second reading' if you will.

Only 'cos you you, you understand.

Antipholus Papps said...

@lwtc247

I'd recommend Cosmic Trigger (Vol 1) and Prometheus Rising as good introductions to RAW. (Flattered to provoke a second judgement!) He was good friends with Timothy Leary and the latter book is about the evolution of consciousness according to Leary's model. He also has a very playful sense of humour.

And yes, David Icke would be a most interesting chap to meet.

dr.Who said...

Antipholus.."not thinly veiled anti-semitic prejudice (though he does have a pop at Israelis for being largely Hungarian)" Why is pointing out the roots of european descended jewry "having a pop"?..
Y'r not having a pop at Hungarians for being somehow beneath other genotypes are you??

Stef said...

FWIW my take is that AP was being mildly ironic, implying the exact opposite and suggesting that the fact that the majority of Israelis are Hungarian, OK, Ashkenazi is kind of irrelevant

...except in the context of that widely misunderstood and not racist at all Law of Return business

Stef said...

...The Way of Irony is a difficult one

dr.Who said...

ha ha,indeed it is yes.No offence peeps,just a bit of banter-having a pop at Israelis for being Hungarian is also actually having a pop at Hungarians...

...but it is interesting that being jewish can mean either a religious persuasion,or a nationality-or both.imagine the kerfuffle if all the christians in Korea suddenly announced that they were in fact,english...

Stef said...

...but it is interesting that being jewish can mean either a religious persuasion,or a nationality-or both.

well quite

the Muslims missed a trick with that one

Antipholus Papps said...

Have you ever met any Hungarians? Awful people!

;)

(Disclaimer: I have never met any Hungarians.)

With regards to the Law of Return, I think that was the point David Icke was trying to make - namely, that a large number of settlers in Israel are not semitic at all. Ergo, he can't be anti-semitic for criticizing Ashkenazim. That he then goes on to point out the hidden 'Nazi' in 'Ashkenazi' wouldn't give much reassurance to any Ashkenazim who survived the third reich.

imagine the kerfuffle if all the christians in Korea suddenly announced that they were in fact,english...

What an excellent idea! Wales can be the new Palestine! (Eventually of course comprising solely of the Brecon Beacons and Anglesey.)

Stef said...

There quite a few Roman Catholic converts in the Far east, so it only seems fair that they are given a legal right of return to Italy

Not forgetting the one or two members of the C of E in Africa who should also be allowed to return to Westminster

Stef said...

... and back to The Galactic Confederacy for all those Scientologists

Stef said...

...and belated apologies for that bodysuit gaffe

I think I must have inadvertantly mixed up the teachings of David Icke with a popular work of fiction which predates those teachings

Stef said...

Dune fans might also be forgiven for confusing the CIA poison patches Icke talks about (see first comment in this thread) with the Harkonnen Poison Patches used on Thufir Hawat

I'm a Star Trek kind of guy myself and until Icke starts talking about the subterranean bases carved by silicon based rock monsters I can't bring myself to take him entirely seriously

Antipholus Papps said...

Funnily enough, at the back of Tales From The Time Loop, Icke includes an 'essential viewing' list, on which 'V' and 'They Live' are pretty much at the top! Combine that with Monsters Inc, and it looks like there are some serious whistle-blowers in Hollywood!

dr.Who said...

"there are some serious whistle-blowers in Hollywood!"
ha ha..
" a well known player of the pink oboe m'lud.."

dr.Who said...

hey AP-how do you get those neat italics in y'r text-something I've yearned for,like, f'r evvah.

Stef said...

♫ Some html hints here

Stef said...

and They Live is a pretty good film

Antipholus Papps said...

They Live is 80s film-making at its very finest! It has one of the greatest lines ever committed to celluloid:

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass! And I'm all out of bubblegum!"

paul said...

It's chock full of them
Television Host: The feeling is definitely there. It's a new morning in America... fresh, vital. The old cynisism is gone. We have faith in our leaders. We're optimistic as to what becomes of it all. It really boils down to our ability to accept. We don't need pessimism. There are no limits.

Bearded Man: We could be pets, we could be food, but all we really are is livestock.

Outside the limit of our sight, feeding off us, perched on top of us, from birth to death, are our owners! Our owners! They have us. They control us! They are our masters! Wake up! They're all about you! All around you!