Saturday, February 17, 2007

The 4th Straw Man

And whilst on the subject of 9/11 and 7/7 hit pieces and how hard it is to know who is or isn’t playing straight or fair…

A few months ago someone called Daniel slapped up a few pages up on the Interweb and posted comments on a few blogs, this one included, directing people to his site…

Daniel says he is a survivor of the fourth 7/7 bomb on the bus in Tavistock Square and that he witnessed strange goings-on that day and has been subject to intimidation from the security forces since then.

The problem for Daniel is that he hasn’t done a very good job of communicating just what the strange goings-on and intimidation exactly were.

Consequently, the reception given to Daniel’s revelations was, how can I put it diplomatically … er, underwhelming.

Then things went quiet for a bit, until last week when Daniel gave an interview on, surprise surprise, the Alex Jones show.

Which was also pretty difficult to take on board.

I won’t bother doing a step by step critique of what Daniel had to say as someone has already gone to the effort here.

Amongst many other points, critics of Daniel's claims have pointed out that there isn't much in the way of evidence that Daniel was even on the bus when the bomb went off. In response, a commentator on the GooTube version of Daniel's Alex Jones interview has written "The man in the red circle is Daniel Obachike, just after the bombing, proofing he was a passenger on the doomed bus."

That would be this red circle...

Oh dear...

I’m only mentioning this here because Google searches for doubts about 7/7 sometimes lead to this blog. There’s a good chance that if speculation and doubts about the official narrative of 7/7 persist the BBC or another media outlet will eventually be called upon to do one of its 'fair and impartial' documentaries on 7/7 Conspiracy Theories. And, let me put it this way, I wouldn’t exactly be surprised if Daniel and his claims were held up as being central to 7/7 Truthseeking, before being crushed two seconds later.

Whether he means to or not, Daniel is doing an awfully good impression of a straw man.



And if you ever pass this way again Daniel and you are on the level please have a think about what you are trying to say and how well it stands up to objective criticism. Because at the moment IMHO it doesn’t

and titling your 4th Bomb blog "Daniel's 7:7 - Revelations" isn't winning many fans over either. References to Biblical Prophecy might go down a storm over in the US but they don't play so well in the UK...

Daniel 7:7

After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

Aside from injecting an unnecessary element of superstition into a subject many people take deadly seriously, the coincidence of your first name and the date of the bombings with a vaguely appropriate quote from Revelations seems so convenient as to be scripted...



N. said...

Yes the big brothers are keeping us safe from self-hatred

Anonymous said...

" Michael Howard and spooks on brink of Rothschild funding deal" ... what's a conspiracy theory denier to do ??? Even the Independent is at it, now!

Stef said...

@anon, thanks again - I hadn't seen that one

I despair, I really do...

Stef said...

@ n.

Thanks for the link to that video. I saw it when it was originally broadcast but it was worth watching a second time

I'd like to say that I was surprised at how f^cked up the situation was when I first saw it but I'd be lying

Ice said...

When he was busy wondering who bandage man was, in his blog, I did my best to point him in the right direction. My comment was deleted.

That got me thinking.

He has a recording of a policewoman from the midlands ringing him up about his phone number being on a suspicious van with a 'jumbo freight' logo on it.

The company does not exist in the UK far as I can tell, but I'd bet my last cent Daniel Obachike's number really was on it.

So blagger, straw man, paid kook or whatever - something isn't right. And nor is running away from two injured women lying on the floor.

Stef said...


lwtc247 said...

There are points for concern with Daniels story. If as Daniel says, the head bandage man was fake, then there's every reason to believe he too, on hearing of these questions about him, could also be fake.

At the same time he could be 100% genuine. I can can you for a fact, I was 'genuine Damiel', one who say a man faking injury, I would not cease to clarify and entertain legitimate criticism. I would be lwtc257.

I try damn hard to try and show people they are living a pantomine, even to the extent of having pretty high temperature discussions with my nearest and dearest about this whole issue, and as much as the rest of the general population, I havent had ANY direct involvement in a Bushism "terrrrr" attack.

So come on Daniel pull ya bloody socks up and get answering some damn questions will ya!

Having said all that, I've come to conclude we are all potential targets, even Dr. Steve Jones religious and previous research field have proven to be focus points of ridicule!

That is why I appeal for acceptance of diverse roles and yes, even those who like Shayler may well be disinfo agents,!!

becasue we can legitimately cherry pick what they say when corroborated with established, fact (see Bridget Dunnes blogspot for FACTS and J7
And I believe disinfo people are very ineffective, in fact counterproductive in their jobs. Skepticism seems to have grown, not least due to their daft disinfo campaigns. LOL. Idiots.

Leave the rest up those remaining - i.e. those who have already made the conscious choice to reject hard physical evidence (Dr. Jones again and J7) and embrace WISIWYG

Anonymous said...

Sorry for the crap typing:
Stef please edit if you can...

At the same time he could be 100% genuine. I can can you for a fact, If I was 'genuine Damiel', one who saw a man faking injury, I would not cease to clarify and entertain legitimate criticism.

- lw