Saturday, September 27, 2008

Yet another fair and impartial inquiry begins



One of my preoccupations in life, and therefore of this blog, is trying to identify and record the kind of legitimate questions which support perfectly healthy and rational scepticism of 'Official Narratives'

I personally don't offer people, here or in real life, much in the way of fully-formed alternative narratives as, much of the time, my doubts arise due to the absence of sufficient information to form any.

My problem with 'Official Narratives' is that they are promoted as being the definitive end of a story and used to justify assertions that no further investigation is required; when I often have grounds to believe nothing could be further from the truth

The inquest into the execution of Jean Charles de Menezes is now, finally, under way

A website has been set up to publish transcripts and other material from the inquest here

It's early days yet but it's already clear that much of the hearing will be preoccupied with the alleged case of mistaken identity which resulted in de Menezes' execution




As it happens, the mainstream media has already decided what happened that day and routinely refers to the reason that Menezes was shot as being because he was mistaken for a known terrorist





There are plenty of inconsistencies in the Official Narrative of that day - surveillence tapes went missing and were erased, log books were retrospectively changed, dubious eye witnesses appeared on television that morning talking about de Menezes wearing heavy clothing and behaving suspiciously, the head of the police went on television claiming that de Menezes was a terrorist long after he would have known otherwise, due process was obstructed...

Everything about that Official Narrative stinks

But here is, what me for is the most disturbing flaw in the Official Narrative...


De Menezes was wearing thin clothing and wasn't carrying anything


A possible case of mistaken identity is arguably totally irrelevant and at best secondary to the question of whether shooting someone in public was a criminal act or not


Even if de Menezes was a wanted terrorist, public gunplay would only be justifiable if he was carrying something that could have honestly been mistaken for a bomb

That's the alleged case of mistaken identification that most needs investigating here

I await the inquest's detailed discussion of this question with bated breath

because if it's now OK to blow people away in public for being suspected bombless bombers it's now OK to blow anybody away


In the meantime I'm off to buy some stick-on bullet holes and to top up my Oyster card



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10 comments:

Anonymous said...

Of course the official narrative stinks,just like everything else they told about the London bombings.
The reason I like this site is because the posters here still have the ability to think things out for themselves.

de Menezes,here is what I heard(which of course could be a bullshit rumor.

1st question.Who was his employer here in the UK? I heard he was a contract electrician.
The other rumor is that he may have been working on the underground fixing electrical gear before the July bombs went off and caught a whiff of or may even have been involved (unwittingly)in preparing the attacks,,,you know disable a camera here mate and oh that one over there kinda thing.Anyway someone decided that he knew too much about the perpetrators of the plot and so was bumped off.

It also served a double purpose of making the public at large afraid of government sanction murder,,ie step too far out of line and you too could be shot multiple times in the head at close range.Black ops all the way.

lwtc247 said...

That particular Jean Charles splice wasn't mine, but I wish it was.

It was someone else who did an absolutely fantastic job at showing you can splice different peoples faces together, even in a casual way, to create an instant impression that it's possible to confuse one person for another.

An impression WILL remain unless you're lucky enough to have that excellent loon quality of being able to stand back, look at what whats being claimed with an unfawning eye, and spot the usual avalance of shit that it's all based upon.

And if you don't have that quality, then, or so it was intended, you take the bait and agree it absolves guilt of assassination by emptying some innocents head and depositing the contents all over a public tube carriage, with special bullets, and distracts from thinking about the evidence he had cocaine planted on him (or had a false post-mortem report written about him) and the hooker lies, the illegal immigrant stories, wire protruding winter coat lies, lies about 110m hurdles champion qualities, lies about employing counter-surveilance measures.

FUCKING BASTARDS.!!!

The Underdoug said...

I've said it before and at the risk of boring everyone senseless, I'll say it again. Look at everything through the prism of 'Craig Murray's razor' (mexing my mitaphors again): if the government want you to know something, then it probably isn't true.

Admittedly that is conspiraloonery for beginners but it does save a lot of time in thought processes.

Seeing that bullet hole reminds me of my favourite tube graffiti - in days gone by, the train doors had stickers saying, "Obstructing the doors causes delay and can be dangerous", which was delightfully changed to "Obstruct the doors, cause delay and be dangerous". I sure as hell won't risk something like that if I could get shot for it.

lwtc247 said...

" if it's now OK to blow people away in public for being suspected bombless bombers it's now OK to blow anybody away"

The essence of THE big issue facing British society.

Decisions are sometimes made for a violent and repugnat act to be carried out, and with all the fascist tools now at their disposal (and the ones around the corner) it's easier for those sickening acts to be executed with impunity and therefore seducingly easy to call.

The assassination of DeMenezes was a step along the way in tis process, not the initiation of it, as we speed off into fascism. Various hard won freedoms come under attack by various governments at various times. Mass murderer Tony BLiar catalyzed that corrosion when he made the 'flux' statement.

As Brirish fascism strengthens, and greater numbers of citizens not prepared to live under tyranny decide to fight against it, then domestic political decisions to preserve the 'new normal' will be used to crush dissent. That is where we are going and we must struggle now while we still can to stop this.

Anonymous said...

Shouldn't they as well have shot the guy that they thought they shot, but didn't? I mean, for good measure. I can't imagine him still free on the streets of the UK, after all, him being a dangerous terrorist and all.

Makes one wonder...

Anonymous said...

Britain to nationalise Bradford & Bingley

Britain will nationalise troubled mortgage lender Bradford & Bingley the BBC reported on Saturday, but the government said discussions on the bank's future were still going on.


I guess if the government control the banks they then have more of a grip on the people?

Anonymous said...

Well the central banks already have leverage over the government even if it was independent and truly representative of the people. Nationalising a bank is about nationalising people's property (since most loans are secured against it).

Anonymous said...

stef,

If you read
The Unknown $19 Trillion Depository Trust Company
by Anthony Wayne

it´s pretty interesting.

heard of these guys?
Talking serious cash $40 Trillion.
http://ming.tv/flemming2.php/__show_article/_a000010-000923.htm

http://www.dtcc.com/about/business/

DTCC, through its subsidiaries, provides clearing, settlement and information services for equities, corporate and municipal bonds, government and mortgage-backed securities, money market instruments and over-the-counter derivatives. In addition, DTCC is a leading processor of mutual funds and insurance transactions, linking funds and carriers with their distribution networks.

DTCC's depository provides custody and asset servicing for 3.5 million securities issues from the United States and 110 other countries and territories, valued at $40 trillion. In 2007, DTCC settled more than $1.86 quadrillion in securities transactions.

DTCC operates through six subsidiaries - each of which serves a specific segment and risk profile within the securities industry:

* National Securities Clearing Corporation (NSCC)
* The Depository Trust Company (DTC)
* Fixed Income Clearing Corporation (FICC)
* DTCC Deriv/SERV LLC
* DTCC Solutions LLC
* EuroCCP Ltd.

DTCC's joint venture company, Omgeo, has over 6,000 customers in 45 countries and plays a critical role in institutional post-trade processing, acting as a central information management and processing hub for brokers, investment managers and custodian banks.

Anonymous said...

DTCC's depository provides custody and asset servicing for 3.5 million securities issues from the United States and 110 other countries and territories, valued at $40 trillion. In 2007, DTCC settled more than $1.86 quadrillion in securities transactions.

fuck me I never knew so many dollars existed! $1.86 quadrillion in securities transactions???what the fuck??

Anonymous said...

an interesting snippet from the article.


Dow Dives 508.32 Points in Panic on Wall Street

"The largest stock-market drop in Wall Street history occurred on "Black Monday" -- October 19, 1987 -- when the Dow Jones Industrial Average plunged 508.32 points, losing 22.6% of its total value. That fall far surpassed the one-day loss of 12.9% that began the great stock market crash of 1929 and foreshadowed the Great Depression. The Dow's 1987 fall also triggered panic selling and similar drops in stock markets worldwide" -Source: Facts on File World News CD ROM

The stock exchanges had dramatic record losses, and a record volume of shares were traded on that infamous Monday in October 1987. We all asked ourselves how computers could have done this by themselves without someone knowing about it. After all, someone has to program a computer to tell it what to do, what not to do, or even when to do or not do it.

During my telephone conversation, Mr. McNeff was trying to assure me that they [the DTC] have "never lost a certificate or made a mistake in a book ledger transaction". In attempting to give me an example of how trustworthy the DTC is when I asked him how he could back up such a statement, he replied "DTC's first controlled test was 4 or 5 years ago. Do you remember Black Monday? There were 535 million transactions on Monday, and 400 million transactions on Tuesday". He was very proud to inform me that "DTC cleared every transaction without a single glitch!". Read these quotes again: He stated that Black Monday was a controlled test. Black Monday was a deliberately manipulated disaster for many Americans at the whim of a controlled test by the DTC.

What was the purpose of this test? Common sense tells you that you test something before you intend to use it. It's quite obvious that the stock markets are going to 'crash and burn' at some future date and for some 'unknown' reason since the controlled test was so successful. Was this just one of the planned tests for a Y2K internationally planned worldwide economic meltdown? The Great Depression is about to be repeated, and it will be as deliberate and manipulated as the first one that began with the stock market crash of 1929. We are, without a doubt, on the brink of the Mother of all economic Depressions. As of May 3, 1999, the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) went above a record 11,000 points. Just prior to the 1929 stock market crash, Wall Street was posting record prices, record earnings, and record profits.... just like the scenario we are experiencing today. Will Y2K be a manipulated and deliberate a financial meltdown? Too many facts already support this probability.

On June 7, 1995, the federal government issued a new regulation requiring stock and bond certificate transfers to be cleared in three days instead of the previous five day time period. It coincided with the infamous Regulation CC that purportedly gave us faster three day availability of funds from deposited checks. This means that brokers and banks must get your stock or bond transaction into the street name (Cede & Co.) of the DTC within 3 working days. That's hard to do considering banks claim it takes 3 or more days to clear a check that you've submitted to pay for a stock purchase. But, there's a reason for this new regulation and it coincides with the introduction of the new FRS "dollars".

On February 22, 1996, "the DTC will flip the switch" according to Mr. McNeff. "What switch?", I asked. "This is the day that clearing house funds will no longer be accepted for stock or bond transactions" was my reply from Jim. "Instead, only Fed Funds will be accepted". Fed Funds, or a Fedwire, are electronic computer ledger debit transfers between Federal Reserve System member banks. No checks or drafts have been allowed from that day, just as Mr. McNeff accurately stated. This is more commonly called a 'cashless transaction'.