Thursday, May 19, 2011

Little Rays of Sunstein pt1

Some time ago I promised myself to never to write again about the antics of a particular bunch of clowns who claim to be interested in researching what really happened in London on July 7th 2005


Actually, that’s not strictly accurate, as at least one of these clowns claims to know exactly what happened on 7/7 and has put his name to a film which asserts as much

The reason why I promised to try and lay off the folk in question was partly because I believed I'd written more than enough on the subject and partly because I wished to avoid wasteful, distractive conflict

Unfortunately, the regions of the Internet I inhabit are increasingly thick with one-sided and misleading accounts of the heroic deeds of these characters and I'm tired of watching this nonsense pass unopposed

I doubt if anyone visiting this blog needs me to elaborate on Cass Sunstein's paper on the strategy of Cognitive Infiltration. However, even before this strategy had a name, observation of the 9/11 Truth Movement in the US and the careers of characters such as Davids Icke and Shayler in the UK would have given some idea of how the State could seriously fuck-up the progress of researchers investigating a flawed State Narrative

Key tactics would include...

  1. Establish eccentric, easily ridiculed individuals as being spokespeople for scepticism of the Official Narrative

  2. Divert focus away from the flaws in the Official Narrative and towards supporting equally flawed Alternative Narratives

  3. Pollute the environment with inaccurate information and generally waste sincere researchers’ time

In past posts I have documented how two individuals in particular have served the interests of the State by cognitively disrupting research into the 7/7 atrocity

I haven't the faintest idea if either is a knowing participant but I do know that they have caused distress to victims' families, offered themselves up to be presented as buffoons on national television, attempted to interfere with trial proceedings without consulting the accused, tried to associate themselves with sincere researchers who aren't acting like buffoons, made apologies for Hitler, claimed to be Jesus, claimed to be the King of England, claimed to be the King of Israel, passed off speculation about 7/7 as fact, and taken actual facts about 7/7 and mutilated them

Here's a photo of the people I'm talking about, taken at the end of a court case one of them got involved in as a result of his knob-end attempt at jury-tampering. A case which just happened to coincide with the conclusion of the 7/7 inquest. He's the messiah dressed as an Israeli flag...

'The Last Baby-Sitter on Earth 2011' quarter finals reach their thrilling climax

(presumably Michele Renouf was otherwise engaged as she usually likes this sort of thing)


The truly impressive aspect of their behaviour is that these characters have pulled this off with barely a squeak of criticism from the alternative media. Quite the opposite. Their output has been endorsed and disseminated widely, as I will illustrate shortly

In contrast, the handful of people who have actually expressed criticism of this cognitive bullshit have been ignored or accused of being Zionist shills. Myself included.

What is the secret of this success in the alternative media?

The trick is to simply assert, without any doubt or reservation, that 'The Jews' did it, whatever 'it' may be

Job done

Once you've got that under your belt you can say or engage in absolutely any form of stupidity you fancy - making stuff up, hassling bereaved people, claiming to be God. It's all good.

The important thing is asserting Jewish culpability. Everything else is incidental and permissable

However...

Call me old fashioned but I doubt very much that wickedness is restricted to 'The Jews' and I'll be fucked if I take to credulously endorsing any old unsubstantiated twaddle some lunatic comes out with, about 7/7 or anything else, without asking them to back it up first

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44 comments:

The Anchovy Fish said...

Cracking opener on the subject.

Looking forward to Part 2.

Bert said...

Yer man Mod Dib looks a dab hand at film production/editing etc. does he not?

Anonymous said...

so what do you have against guyswith long eccentric bears stefff?

Beard Liberation Front said...

The beard, perhaps unusually, is not the issue.

Stef said...

Yes, I had similar thoughts and suspected that an undisclosed hand may have been involved in the production of Lord Muad'dibs fantasy epic

But then I read on his website that he was in psychic communion with George Lucas and my base suspicions were allayed

Stef said...

"so what do you have against guyswith long eccentric bears stefff?"

nothing, nothing at all

I regularly send Brother Nathanael whatever worthless Zionist fiat currency I can spare

Stef said...

and whilst on the subject of psychic communion, there was a time when I suspected that Muad'dib was also in astral contact with legendary BBC comedy script writer John Sullivan

The scenario of a bloke called Tony, claiming to be the Messiah, soliciting cash donations to a PO Box in Canvey Island in exchange for details of a sure fire way to get out of speeding tickets sounds like it came straight out of Only Fools and Horses

and let's not forget Sullivan died shortly before Muad'dib's acquittal

Coincidence? I think not

Brian Blessed said...

Gordon's alive!?

Stef said...

If you're referring to the exceptionally truthy Gordon Duff then the answer is yes...

Suppressed News: “False Flag” Whistleblower Acquitted in Britain

Anonymous said...

Duff by name, duff by nature.

LLTF HH ETC

Anonymous said...

bears?? should have been beard of course!

so stef you think that that the evil doers not only dunn it but have been sending their evil agents lie maud to poison the well into the bargain!


I think nobody gives much of a fuck anyway at the moment.

Stef said...

I suspect Agent is the wrong expression, Useful Mentalist might be nearer the mark

As for people not giving a fuck, I agree

But only sort of

If you're talking about your average person on the street, absolutely not. But they don't give much of a fuck about anything 'conspiracy theorists' get up to.

Largely, I would argue, because of the antics of the kind of wannabe messiahs and irrational keyboard monkeys currently pissing in the 7/7 well

Stef said...

and I should also point out that the BBC went to a lot of effort and spent ages, in these cash-strapped times, putting together and trying to lure non-messianic 7/7 researchers into its Conspiracy Files production

Then there's the matter of the faux 7/7 inquest which featured direct references to conspiracy theorists and scepticism about the Offical Narrative from the begining through to the end

So, presumably, a few of the evil doers do give a fuck about what some of us are up

Stef said...

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Edo said...

Good to see you blogging again Stef.
I noticed Mr Boyle put an apology to Bridget of J7 on his blog the other day which I thought was big of him.

He's a supporter of the Messiah of England/Israel is he not?

Someone, somewhere, is having a fucking laugh, and I guarantee its not a conspiraloon.

Personally, I don't have a problem with anyone offering 'their' version of events, so long as it's qualified with a 'these are my views and I have little to prove any of this' caveat. But then same goes for, well, anything really.

Only in the realms of science does fact and proof mean anything. everything else is open to interpretation, and that includes news, blogs and fancy internet documentaries.

J7 have, in my opinion, done a great job of analysis, but a bloody crap job bringing that analysis to the masses. (sorry ant)

Edo said...

maybe should have taken the BBC up after all?

Stef said...

maybe should have taken the BBC up after all?

bollocks

did you see what they did to the Loose Change crew?

Stef said...

Hi Edo

I noticed Mr Boyle put an apology to Bridget of J7 on his blog the other day

Yes, yes he did

though for some reason, several actually, I find it difficult to warm to the man

As for J7 bringing their research to the masses, speaking as somone who's thought about how that could be achieved the answer is, for reasons that can be discussed another time, 'it ain't that easy'

There are actually a couple of pretty good independent documentaries about 7/7 out there. The problem is, as Deek Jackson puts it, most people know but they just don't mind

I agree with you about presenting your own take on what may have happened and how that can be honestly done. 7/7 RE is not presented in that way and presents a thinly supported hypothesis as being what really happened (or words to that effect). Then there's all that fucking around with juries, victims relatives and the BBC

The Gandalf impression is just icing on the cake

Edo said...

Think about it Stef.
Lets say Ant or Bridget did go on the teevee:

They're not going to declare themselves to be the Messiah,

They're not going to talk about the holocaust.

They're not going to talk about UFOs.

They ARE smart people, so even with the BBC's mighty editing machine, the amount of damage v the amount of exposure would have been marginal.

PS - these are my 'on reflection' thoughts. I was totally with J7 for their refusal originally.

Stef said...

That's where the holocaust denier and the messiah would've come in handy

BBC producers are pros at this sort of thing. It would've been a carve up

Kollerstrom and Gandalf knew that J7 and other 7/7 researchers had told the BBC to fuck off. Presumably they believed they had the intellect and charisma to pull it off. The end result was a little bit of TV magic

Edo said...

We'll never know now will we? The moment has been and gone, and the J7 inquests have passed without the mainstream even noticing. What with bogey-men getting shot in the head, a royal wedding and a new series of the apprentice to enjoy, who's got time for the July 7th bombings?
I've probably said this before, but that's my birthday and since the bombings, I really haven't looked forward to my birthday any more. This year I'm going to change that.

Stef said...

and I'm too busy right now to pull out the links to posts made at the time but I was blogging about the Conspiracy Files production long before it was aired

The entire business was constructed as an ambush. Dr Nick's, Muad'ib's and 7/7 RE's roles were clearly being prepared months before the BBC show and the inquest after that

I'd also point out that Muad'dib's acquittal got more coverage on most conspiracy sites than the conclusion of the actual 7/7 Inquest

Muad'dib himself had become the story - as he was always going to

Tell me that doesn't stink of media manipulation

Edo said...

I hear you Stef, and no need to dig the links out. I read them all.

I offered my help to J7 years ago, to do something practical, innovative and pro-active... After initial enthusiasm from J7, everything went quiet, and the result was - nothing!

This really curbed my enthusiasm too, though I never stopped supporting their cause.

I guess I'm thinking about lost opportunities, and the longer time goes on, the less people will care.

Pity.

Stef said...

We'll never know now will we? The moment has been and gone, and the J7 inquests have passed without the mainstream even noticing. What with bogey-men getting shot in the head, a royal wedding and a new series of the apprentice to enjoy, who's got time for the July 7th bombings?

Well, quite

Who's got time for Libya, or the those reactors in Japan, or the fact that the entire economic system could go properly tits up at the drop of a hat?

But you can never be too sure when the moment has passed exactly. Trials for the Bologna massacre started years after the event and people were still getting locked up in 2004, 24 years after the bombing

And, chaos theory being the peculiar thing that it is, there's always the possibility that even the tiniest act of resistance might prove to be the political equivalent of a butterfly flapping its wings in the Amazon

Looking forward to birthdays isn't a bad idea for similar reasons

Stef said...

I offered my help to J7 years ago, to do something practical, innovative and pro-active... After initial enthusiasm from J7, everything went quiet, and the result was - nothing!

That's unfortunate. J7's emphasis has always been on research and putting the material out there, rather than 'marketing' that material

Material which has been duly mined by other people

I tried to push the J7 inquest blog with various higher volume conspiraloon sites and personalities a few months back

As I already alluded to in the main body of this post, I realised early on that it would have been a lot easier to 'sell' the Inquest work if it had a sensationalist conclusion, however thinly supported, especially if the sensationalist conclusion pointed towards 'The Jews'

This is much more an indictment of the current state of the conspirapshere than the way J7 has gone about things imho

One of the problems is that your average conspiranaut doesn't do uncertainty any better than someone who hasn't been conspiracized. He wants answers and he doesn't really care how ropey they are, just as long as they're different to the ones on the tele

The Antagonist said...

It's probably a little unfair for those that have spent a long time criticising the way in which the mainstream media is controlled in various ways to then use the way in which the mainstream media is controlled in various ways as a stick to beat the victims of the way in which the mainstream media is controlled in various ways.

It's simple logic, but it's simple logic that escapes a lot of people.

The Antagonist said...

The irony, of course, being that the Conspiraloon Mainstream Media also suffers from barriers to entry, albeit with slightly different criteria to the Mainstream Media.

If you're not blaming the Jews for everything, claiming to be the messiah, and trying to palm off detritus in published form as 'research', then the Conspiraloon Mainstream Media's not interested either.

And the Conspiraloon Mainstream Media is far better controlled than the Mainstream Media, as demonstrated by the small and ever decreasing circles in which they operate.

WV: KingEnde. Which is apt.

Anonymous said...

I regularly send Brother Nathanael whatever worthless Zionist fiat currency I can spare

thanks for that Stef I really enjoyed that video

I like sex between male and female for the procreation bit. and together we can break the Zionist power!

fuck yeah.
Anyway i´d say that 85% of the population don´t even remeber what happened or have forgotten altogether the London bombings.Down the memory hole mate

The Antagonist said...
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The Antagonist said...

And let's remember that those now slandering J7 as "controlled opposition" had little or, more usually, absolutely nothing of their own to contribute other than speculation and apriori prejudiced and unverifiable nonsense.

q.v Colonel Mahoney, The Jag at Luton, the Resilience Mortuary and virtually everything else J7 have ever published, repeated around the Conspiraloon Mainstream/Fringe Media - with added made-up 'facts' and other disinformation - by a chummy group of spooky pals (Kollerstrom, Mackenzie, Shayler, Machon, Gosling, Boyle, etc., etc., the list does go on some) who've been knocking around together in one form of 'campaign' or another (Belgrano, INLAP, Renouf, Holly Greig, Shayler/Machon, Iranian 'charities' whose money goes missing, etc., etc, the list does go on some) for years.

None of which they've managed to palm off with any degree of success on anyone that exists outside of their own echo chamber.

Edo said...

Ant, you should listen to yourself bitching here mate. Not cool.

"None of which they've managed to palm off with any degree of success on anyone that exists outside of their own echo chamber." - People in glass houses....

The Antagonist said...

OK Edo, here's the deal.

Edo said...

I offered my help to J7 years ago, to do something practical, innovative and pro-active... After initial enthusiasm from J7, everything went quiet, and the result was - nothing!


And the reason it all went quiet after the initial enthusiasm was quite simply because we read your blog.

The blog you ran at the time, which has since disappeared, was happily and regularly linking to all the very same 'the jews did everything bad that ever happened' sites as all the rest of them.

This meant that J7 had to make a judgement call regarding the idea of sending postcards to every MP in the land which had been designed and mailed by someone happy to champion 'the jews did everything bad that ever happened' meme.

MPs don't really much give a toss and J7 don't need to be associated with peddlers of hateful and racist rubbish.

As you say, "People in glass houses...."

Anonymous said...

anyway check this out.

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Note the name of the website!Zardoz!

Edo said...

The reason I pulled my blog, apart from the fact hardly anyone read it, was precisely because my thinking evolved beyond that...

But hey, J7 made a decision not to use my offer of help (which, by the way, would not have traced itself back to me) and didn't have the backbone to tell me why.

So you won't talk to the media because you think they'll twist your words and you want to vet everyone that offers their help to you because you're afraid their personal opinion might tar your group with the same brush... which pretty much leaves you with what you've got. 3000 odd signatures on your petition, which equates to about 0.005% of the UK public.

Stef said...

"which pretty much leaves you with what you've got. 3000 odd signatures on your petition, which equates to about 0.005% of the UK public."

that is a bit of a problem, but not one restricted to 7/7 or J7's efforts

take the Jean Charles de Menezes execution for example. It's now a matter of public record that he was illegally killed, that the police lied and destroyed evidence, that the police knew that there was no way he could have been carrying a bomb and that the police officer nominally in charge of the operation was over-ruled and told to give a kill order by an unidentified person in the command centre

but They got away with it didn't They?

Come to think of it, I'm not even sure why the Powers That Be would bother with False Flags any more at all. Even when they get caught killing innocent people in broad daylight they still get away with it

Edo said...

"Even when they get caught killing innocent people in broad daylight they still get away with it"

Which much surely be the point - to show that They can get away with whatever the fuck They like. Whoever They is, but we mustn't speculate on that of course.

Stef said...

As for 'The Jews' did it thing. I'll be knocking up a couple of posts on the subject in due course, so I won't go on about it too much now

But it is an issue that needs addressing and tackling face on imho

Speaking personally, I am not a fan of Israel, Zionists (of whatever ethnicity) or the Banking system

But this constant harping on that 'The Jews' did it in certain corners of the Internet essentially attempts to make 'The Jews' scapegoats for all of Humanity's sins. It is based on a fantasy of some Jew-free Golden Age in the distant past when everything was just fucking peachy. There were no wars, no exploitation, all populalr culture was wholesome and enriching, and the 'White Race' lived in an idyllic sin free state

Putting aside the fact that the last popular movement to ascribe to this myth behaved and ended very badly and did a stand up job of not exterminating any bankers, even if people hadn't already gone down this path before, I would still reject it on the simple basis that it is bollocks

Stef said...

"but we mustn't speculate on that of course"

we can speculate till the cows come home but as you may have noticed, and the '9/11 no planes' narrative and the associated holy wars that followed are a good example, these things have a habit of being turned into matters of faith

if 7/7 RE had made it clear that it was advancing an hypothesis I would have no major issues with the film

I would still think interferring wit trials without consulting the accused and hassling victims' relatives is pretty rank behaviour though and an approach which would not yield a positive result

unless attaining personal notoriety was the principal objective

in that case, it's a very shrewd, if unscrupulous, way to behave

Stef said...

"anyway check this out.

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Note the name of the website!Zardoz!"

excellent, I can stick that at the other end of this

Today, I will be mostly eating ... kelp

Zardoz said...

Zardoz speaks!!

Stef said...

What Zardoz neglected to mention is the fact that his name has been associated with the the 11/3/11 earthquake becaus some people on Facebook reckon he starred in an example of predictive programming designed to prepare us all for extermination by fallout

though I can't help thinking that the predictive programmers might have chosen a more accessible work and not jumped the gun a bit by 38 years or so

Anonymous said...

whaddya mean "Lord Muad'dibs fantasy epic"
- is it too much trouble to point out
flaws in his vid ? - u'd just prefer to
get on with painting him as a loon ?
.

Stef said...

Been there done that...

Matthew 7:15 and the 7/7 Ripple Effect

as has J7...

7/7 Ripple Effect - a rebuttal and rejection

You might also care to note my cunning reference to Mathhew 7:15 on the subject of false prophets and their fruits. A passage which sums up my take on people attempting to play the ad hominem card on me

Matey's beliefs and his attempts to pull a bait and switch are relevant here. I fully expect that to become clear to even the densest truther when 7/7 Ripple Effect 2 is unleashed on the world

Stef said...

and just one more thing...

"u'd just prefer to
get on with painting him as a loon ?"

The person in question claims to be Jesus and the True King of England and of Israel. He has claimed that millions will suffer and die if the world does not embrace His Majesty

He *is* a fucking nutcase and a nasty one at that

No painting required