Michael White, feeling a bit fruity?"We need to know truth behind claims of UK complicity in terror suspect torture"
"What has David Davis's overnight speech on alleged British complicity in the torture of terror suspects got to do with the newly unveiled memorial to the 52 victims of the 7/7 London bombs, unveiled in Hyde Park yesterday? Alas, it is the shadowy world of conspiracy theory...
...scratch the surface of yesterday's moving ceremony for the families of the 7/7 dead and all is not well.
The website of the July 7th Truth Campaign crackles with barely contained fury at what it sees as a wilful refusal of the government to hold a public inquiry into what really happened that day, the police and intelligence errors, the discrepancies in the official account, the scale of the plot four years ago yesterday.
It gets worse. Last week, BBC2's Conspiracy Files series "exposed" a man already known to conspiracy theorists as Muad Dib (the name taken from Frank Herbert's Dune novels) to be Sheffield-born John Hill (60) who lives near the Hill of Tara in County Meath and believes he is the Messiah.
Hill sports a long white beard and baseball cap for added authenticity
What is relevant here is that Dib/Hill made the "Ripple Effect" video, which alleges that the 7 July bombings were organised by the usual suspects – Tony Blair, Whitehall, British and Israeli intelligence – to stiffen public support for the war in Iraq....
...The aforementioned J7 campaign has already condemned the Ripple Effect as "unsubstantiated speculation" and the BBC's Conspiracy Files as "risible".
In its stern, unforgiving way, it concentrates on the known facts and known oddities like the official assertion (later corrected) that the four bombers caught the 7.40 from Luton on 7 July 2005 when that train was cancelled that day.
We are already deep in the mirrored, bewildering world of conspiracy theory, in which an official inquiry may satisfy rational supporters of the J7 campaign but not irrational ones or conspiratologists beyond..."
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That's twice in a week.
Still contemplating White's piece, but initial thoughts are that it is a clever, insightful, if rather cryptic, article.
Interesting times indeed....
the working in of J7 into that piece does seem a tad contrived
can't figure out what the old Nu Labour arse kisser is up to though
can't figure out what the old Nu Labour arse kisser is up to though
That's always the bind.
The joined-up J7 bits:
The website of the July 7th Truth Campaign crackles with barely contained fury at what it sees as a wilful refusal of the government to hold a public inquiry into what really happened that day, the police and intelligence errors, the discrepancies in the official account, the scale of the plot four years ago yesterday.
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The aforementioned J7 campaign has already condemned the Ripple Effect as "unsubstantiated speculation" and the BBC's Conspiracy Files as "risible".
In its stern, unforgiving way, it concentrates on the known facts and known oddities like the official assertion (later corrected) that the four bombers caught the 7.40 from Luton on 7 July 2005 when that train was cancelled that day.
We are already deep in the mirrored, bewildering world of conspiracy theory, in which an official inquiry may satisfy rational supporters of the J7 campaign but not irrational ones or conspiratologists beyond.
All woven into a longer article about the bigger war-on-everyone picture that includes UK complicity in torture, complete with a pointer to a cracking piece of journalism by Ian Cobain.
High praise for J7 from the Assistant Editor of the Guardian, or something else entirely?
Appropriately, the word verification is: chess
If only more people could make the connection between questioning complicity in torture and questioning the official account of 7/7. Oddly, most progressives would see the former as perfectly justified and fair game, yet the latter as the act of a driveling loon.
That is one of the great conumdrums we conspiranauts face isn't?
I'm having real trouble coming up with the name of a single government minister, past or present, who hasn't been found to be corrupt or a liar, or both
Ditto for senior offices in the Metrpolitan Police responsible for counter-terrorism - Randy Andy Hayman, Bob Quick, Ian Blair, plus 300 or so sundry others...
We've had the WMD/ Iraq War thing, the De Menezes execution, the Hutton Whitewash and so many other examples of our Establishment pursuing mendacious policies of murderous intent
Given all that, you'd think that the progressives (sic.) you refer to would cut us conspiraloons a little fucking slack
The professional Opinion Formers have done their work well
PS Michael White is a shifty fucker and I doubt very much that he is making the connection you refer to for anything but shifty reasons
though miracles do happen occasionally
Apologies in advance for the atrocious pun....
miracles do happen occasionally
The Muad works in mysterious ways.
Apologies in advance for the atrocious pun....
I'm still kicking myself for not referring to Jim Felcher when I had a chance, so you are forgivien
I do get the impression that the counterloons are getting rather desperate these days.
e.g. this doggerel from a self appointed hammer of the loons
From what I can make out, and I'm not sure I understand it, everything would be ok with out ct.
Still it keeps the fat sophist fuck in the style he's accustomed to.
Perhaps they're worried about their readership over at the Grauniad ;-)
While we're on about media arse kissing:
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/112666/Wounded-hero-kills-Taliban-fighter-from-hospital-bed
What kind of pathetic propaganda is that? They actually glorify getting shot for fucks sake...
I have another mainstream conspiraloon for you - Russell T Davis.
In last night's Torchwood episode, aliens wanted 10% of the earth's children. So in a COBRA meeting the prime minister and his cabinet decide on how they will allocate the 10%. Firstly they decide that their children will be exempt. Then they discuss how they could sell such a move as good for the environment - resources are running out and the world is overpopulated - people might even welcome it if we spin it right etc.
Ultimately they decide to select the most economically unproductive, those on benefits - those that will end up in prison. The easiest way to do this would be to use the school league tables to select the bottom 10% - "What else are league tables for..."
Hope New Labour were watching.
Nice to hear that good old Blood Libel is being dusted off and given a fresh(ish) twist
iPlayer doesn't work where I am now. Something to do with not paying the television tax
I'll stagger on without BBC TV somehow...
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on him not understanding it" -Upton Sinclair
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