tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post8985003544839873940..comments2023-10-18T16:25:13.593+01:00Comments on Famous for 15 megapixels: David Shayler and the Holy GrailStefhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-76608856813575688472007-08-18T21:12:00.000+01:002007-08-18T21:12:00.000+01:00Merkin said: "I don't know if it is a comment on s...Merkin said: "I don't know if it is a comment on society or on my state of mind, but I can't work out if he really is just a nut-job or a 5th columnist."<BR/><BR/>Maybe his role is to discredit groups like the 911 Truth Movement by behaving like a nut and smearing the entire Movement by assiciation?Rory Winterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05576969819210177312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-91175308109540870482007-08-14T19:34:00.000+01:002007-08-14T19:34:00.000+01:00@Kier; If accurate, that's a killer quote and pret...@Kier; If accurate, that's a killer quote and pretty much seals my own personal opinion about what's going on<BR/><BR/><I>'It's good to be the King...'</I>Stefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-56742747272985157922007-08-14T18:13:00.000+01:002007-08-14T18:13:00.000+01:00@stevew: yes, I do remember seeing maitreya plaste...@stevew: yes, I do remember seeing maitreya plastered around the place years ago but I can't remember if it was Brixton specific and, sadly, no photos<BR/><BR/>and if there is much Buddhist influence in Brixton these days I'm hard put to see itStefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-92153616641173822372007-08-14T14:54:00.000+01:002007-08-14T14:54:00.000+01:00@wolfiethanks muchly, a stellar find...@wolfie<BR/><BR/>thanks muchly, a stellar find...Stefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-51075510036403763022007-08-14T13:17:00.000+01:002007-08-14T13:17:00.000+01:00Cool Fish of the Month<A HREF="http://www.bountyfishing.com/blog/2007/08/07/27-aquatic-lifeforms-you-never-caught-while-fishing/" REL="nofollow">Cool Fish of the Month</A>Wolfiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05820269114208456064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-50117998099614275382007-08-14T12:57:00.000+01:002007-08-14T12:57:00.000+01:00LOL at the good comments on these threads.http://9...LOL at the good comments on these threads.<BR/><BR/>http://911research.wtc7.net/<BR/>essays/patriots_question/<BR/>index.html<BR/>(http://tinyurl.com/23btxp)<BR/>- ooooh, my first tinyurl :)<BR/><BR/>Thanks Anonymous @ 10:46 for that article. I've just ganderd it. The point is very made well, and I know it was meant to stop people saying "BUT", but, (sorry) Fetzer is a philosopher of Science as the article makes clear. Isn't the way he's not discounting what he would call 'possibilities', simply his training by profession? I'm not a 'beamer' myself, but IMO, I think Fetzer and others desire to pursue these things may actually be positive in the long run, because the greater the research they conduct, IF THE PREMISE IS FALSE, (as I believe it is) then their research will surely ultimately show that to be the case. And I believe that training sees them as being pragmatic enough to welcome any result and learn from it as any investigator should. That line of enquiry would surely be stone cold dead after that. It is unrealistic to expect homogeneity on 9-11 or 7-7 truth simply because there are unknowns in the equation. Diversity is the direct result, and until those unknowns are addressed, diversity is assured.<BR/><BR/>We have less evidence that Shayler still works for Mi5 than those who support the "no planes" theory have. I am not a "no-planer at WTC", but I can see that they believe they are in possession of what seems like scientific indications that no-planes is a possibility. Personally, I believe there is far stronger lines of enquiry and evidence treading a much more conventional path, but if we all adopted a single line on this, then if 'they' found one error in our logic (which is highly likely given that we would at least have to lean heavily on an unknown) then by the same token. the whole truth movement would be come crashing down in a similar manner we are worried it will do over Shaylers work now.<BR/><BR/>I think there is strength in diversity. Skeptics minds realize NO-ONE has the full picture. Skeptics are smart enough to pick their own bones which have they most meat on, and can anyone show me a persons lifetime of work that doesn't contain some crap {in retrospect} at some point? What kind of feeble minds would accept what we say if they can’t see any possible daft thing a proponent of 9-11 may hold dear? (please excuse any ‘arrogance’ at the word we here. I hope its context is understood)<BR/><BR/>And Huffschmidt is even criticized like Fetzer. Huffschmidt who was one of the first to PACK his video's full of factual evidence. Huffschmidt was undoubtedly a ‘gateway-er’ It's the infighting that is detracting from 9-11 and 7-7 'truth' (which remember none of us actually has, these issues are nobody’s baby). We should push our own individual beliefs on 9-11 and 7-7 as hard as we can - put gripes between others aside, and if we realize were barking up the wrong 'truth' tree, we need the balls to change track.<BR/><BR/>While sometimes I think that people are sensible enough to realize, that ‘if David's going down this road, then so what, I can still resolve the issies’, I sometimes think other times that in many respects, many people can't/won't think about serious issues, in no small part thanks to the MSM, that they just might dismiss the totality of what David says. ‘Tis us strange humans my friend.<BR/><BR/>I'll stop before I start too obviously repeating. I'm exhaused my words on this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-69337373931336674942007-08-14T10:15:00.000+01:002007-08-14T10:15:00.000+01:00For something completely different along the 'isn'...For something completely different along the 'isn't the MSM crap line' ... <BR/><BR/>Isn't the MSM crap. Just been looking at the <A HREF="http://ml-implode.com/" REL="nofollow">Mortgage Lender Implodometer</A> where there's the repeating comment of ... 'not yet reported in the MSM'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-65560699807071402662007-08-14T06:44:00.000+01:002007-08-14T06:44:00.000+01:00actually,I misunderstood you didnt I.theres anothe...actually,I misunderstood you didnt I.theres another celebrity meltdown coming..interesting.<BR/>you have a habit of snapping pics of curious signs and leaflets-do you remember seeing the little white photocopies of maitreya around the brixton area 15ish years ago?Vivid memory for me,for some unknown reason.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-40102473543035499102007-08-14T06:23:00.000+01:002007-08-14T06:23:00.000+01:00hmm..skunk,Playstation,messiah complex,way too muc...hmm..skunk,Playstation,messiah complex,way too much free time..<BR/>maybe he'll turn up at a UFO convention with a kind of bastardised PS2 chip and blue tooth modem crudely wired into a jackplug socket drilled into his 'third eye',and start beaming text/video messages mentally to everyone in the room with a mobile phone, and then spread like a virus from those phones connected to the web until hes gained control of billions of computers,and uses their collective brain power to smash pentagon/cia/fbi/vatican/whoever security codes in seconds flat,flooding the whole internet with top secret classified info and the truth sets the common man free.we hang the tyrants who have brutally perverted our technological/spiritual/political evolution.We all build crop circle ships,and "explore space together"<BR/>(I really miss bill hicks)<BR/>then again,..maybe he's that artificial hive brain DARPA bio-god-machine from "They Want Your Soul"<BR/>nice god/evil god,only time will tellAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-24476384227500216672007-08-14T02:51:00.000+01:002007-08-14T02:51:00.000+01:00I was way too strong earlierIt was funny thoughand...<I>I was way too strong earlier</I><BR/><BR/>It was funny though<BR/><BR/>and DS did mention at one point (I think) that he is but one of TWO Messiahs<BR/><BR/>Can't wait to find out who the other one is supposed to beStefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-84781556269282314002007-08-14T02:15:00.000+01:002007-08-14T02:15:00.000+01:00I've been racked with guilt all night.I was way to...I've been racked with guilt all night.I was way too strong earlier.Sorry bout that.I don't know what the hells going on anymore.If Davey boys ill or in a strange place,then safe journey home fella.Thanks for the euro run.<BR/><BR/>You may well be right about Heath Lane.My local history is admittedly shakey..1812 Boro was probably a small network of villages, with a smithy and a smelter on the hills like the settlers game.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-78257148649586959542007-08-14T00:34:00.000+01:002007-08-14T00:34:00.000+01:00Well, anonymous, all yez can do is accept the slin...Well, anonymous, all yez can do is accept the slings and arrows of outrageous whatever and hope that Yorrick is a good sort.<BR/><BR/>I have not been to a single football match in the past 20 years, yet I still know who has won the league in a number of countries.<BR/>My students, when I was working abroad, were well into The Matrix as a way of life.<BR/>Tough shit, my epistemology is of the walks, talks, quacks type.Merkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02499327449561248731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-89624080545618674002007-08-13T22:46:00.000+01:002007-08-13T22:46:00.000+01:00Wurth u luek screee"Wurth u luek <A HREF="http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/patriots_question/index.html" REL="nofollow">screee"</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-30737780758197407272007-08-13T22:04:00.000+01:002007-08-13T22:04:00.000+01:00No problems, lwtc247, however, I have to wait to S...No problems, lwtc247, however, I have to wait to Saturday which is mushy picking day.<BR/><BR/>(I do have first refusal on a couple of 'poison frogs', but I may have misheard and thought it was a message about my ex-girlfriend.)Merkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02499327449561248731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-21755352438843478902007-08-13T21:53:00.000+01:002007-08-13T21:53:00.000+01:00Fun Facts™ #427Dave's website is apparently hosted...Fun Facts™ #427<BR/><BR/>Dave's website is apparently hosted by Alex Jones' operation...<BR/><BR/>whois.domaintools.com/daveshayler.com<BR/><BR/>small world...Stefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-91305192626913565312007-08-13T20:56:00.000+01:002007-08-13T20:56:00.000+01:00@StevewRe: Heath lane in Boro. Dun forget, this is...@Stevew<BR/><BR/>Re: Heath lane in Boro. Dun forget, this is 1812 were talking about. Your A-Z aint that old!<BR/><BR/>Ask Merkin, he seems in on the know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-11751714853597538562007-08-13T19:32:00.000+01:002007-08-13T19:32:00.000+01:00I like this bit, btw...B: "But I am supporting you...I like this bit, btw...<BR/><BR/>B: "But I am supporting you, I’m helping put food on your table and a roof over your head!" <BR/><BR/>DS: "Well, so you should, it's up to my followers to keep me in a state of bliss so that I can carry out my mission."Kierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12236507389155398693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-33675994068474532692007-08-13T19:27:00.000+01:002007-08-13T19:27:00.000+01:00There are some intriguing insights from David's ex...There are some intriguing insights from David's ex-landlady to be found <A HREF="http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=10726&start=90" REL="nofollow">here</A>. (Posting under the username B)She recounts in detail a conversation she had with him at the weekend.Kierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12236507389155398693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-74842634003392817882007-08-13T19:25:00.000+01:002007-08-13T19:25:00.000+01:00I'm not going to be polite here,everyone seems to ...I'm not going to be polite here,everyone seems to be full of sympathy for the pie munching twat.Not me.If I ever see him at the riverside stadium,I'll nail him to the goalpost.Well..I would if I could actually afford a ticket to get in.Why does he have to be a fucking boro fan..and if hes responsible for our miraculous euro run,what happened in the final?too busy nailing mary magdalen? <BR/>whenever fuckface has editorial control over what spews out of his trap,he goes off on a cringe inducing rant about holograms missiles and no fucking planes.He's a liability.If hes fucked his head with jimson weed or whatever,he needs to be ranting at a fucking shrink ina rubber room,not derailing other peoples hard work.what has he got to do with crop circles?I know that colin andrews(andrew collins?) the croppy guy tells a tale of the CIA trying to bribe him into dismissing crop circles as man made hoaxes;maybe theres something about this years artwork that the evil rich dont want us plebs talking about.I know theres some geezer whos allegedly made a free energy device based on crop circle designs (google crop circle ship).<BR/>The other dodgy fucker,Anne Machon,has been touting limited hangouts in the Mail.Apparently,the secret service is strapped for cash,thats why terrorism happens.Maybe they shouldn't have spent so much cash arming the IRA,or dressing SAS cunts as arabs and giving them cars full of bombs to drive around.How did she get to be a brass in the truth movement?Isn't she secretary of some uk 911 outfit?sack the lying twunt.run them both out of town.<BR/>Meh..theres a few personal insults in there that I probably won't be proud about later(thought better of it and edited the worst out).But fuck it.I'm sick of "truthers" spewing bullshit.These two lying bastards aren't to be trusted.who needs enemies with friends like these?<BR/>Rick Siegel,of 911eyewitness fame has put out a challenge to all the bigwigs of the truth movement..take a lie detector test..weed out the liars and agents.Funnily enough,no one has taken him up on it.<BR/>BTW-thats not a blobfish-its my right eyeball.If any of your friends tell you their kid has picked up a dose of conjunctivitis,run away.<BR/>BTW2-theres no Heath lane in Boro.If there ever was a heath around here,it was turned into a slag heap/toxic dump long ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-60402209622946284082007-08-13T15:59:00.000+01:002007-08-13T15:59:00.000+01:00'You know these people who claim to be reincarned ...'You know these people who claim to be reincarned spirits and so on. Why don't they ever say In my past life, 1812, I was Ms. Jane Smith from No 42 Heath Lane, Middlesborough?'<BR/><BR/>Easy.<BR/>That's because, in my past life, 1812, I was Ms. Jane Smith from No 42 Heath Lane, Middlesborough.Merkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02499327449561248731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-55021445459126786032007-08-13T10:16:00.000+01:002007-08-13T10:16:00.000+01:00You know these people who claim to be reincarned s...You know these people who claim to be reincarned spirits and so on. Why don't they ever say In my past life, 1812, I was Ms. Jane Smith from No 42 Heath Lane, Middlesborough?<BR/><BR/>- lwAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-18257056113424094902007-08-13T09:55:00.000+01:002007-08-13T09:55:00.000+01:00There's no way any of us can be sure about what's ...There's no way any of us can be sure about what's going on in DS' head. What I am sure of is that he is pitching his latest message no differently to the way he pitched 9/11 and 7/7. Shayler claiming to be the Messiah sounds exactly the same as Shayler claiming 9/11 to be an inside job. This will turn people away. Most people have neither the time, experience nor inclination to try and pick out what is fact and what is fantasy. Whether he is consciously doing it or not Shayler is crapping in the pool<BR/><BR/>And what DS is doing with these New Agey themes is no different to what he has done with 'truth' movements. He is repackaging other people's work and ideas without adding any value - be it new research or original thinking. Virtually everything he has come out with recently is indistinguishable from the kind of stuff David Icke, Michael Tsarion, Jordan Maxwell and many others have been peddling for some time. Probably the most pernicious element of their 'teachings' being this 2012 thing and how people of conscience essentially need do nothing to challenge what is going on in the world and simply hang around and wait for time to pass and for the universe to change<BR/><BR/>What with the passive New Age crap, the neutering of the controlled established Left and people being jerked off with the climate change thing there isn't much room left for the kind of political activism that I personally would like to see - in that respect I see the reborn Shayler as being, by accident or by design, part of a much wider malaiseStefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-68477861984373544902007-08-13T06:24:00.000+01:002007-08-13T06:24:00.000+01:00These neoMayans are letting dreams shape their rea...These neoMayans are letting dreams shape their reality.<BR/><BR/>I think 9-11 (which missed the 2000 doomsday) and 2012 has awakened the doomsday complex within some.<BR/><BR/>- lwAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-82955486622247562372007-08-13T06:00:00.000+01:002007-08-13T06:00:00.000+01:00I'm listening to it now. I believe he's completely...I'm listening to it now. I believe he's completely sincere.<BR/><BR/>100% Wrong, but sincere.<BR/><BR/>He's interpreted some experience wrongly and imported previous information from David Icke into those feelings.<BR/><BR/>It's well natured I believe, like Icke, but wrong.<BR/><BR/>I notice the Mayan "2012" date again. Infinite/unconditional love is the new religion. Icke is anti-religion, DS is pro christianity. Two bases covered.<BR/><BR/>Imagine a world with no religion and then one day someone says "I believe in God" Imagine the reaction. OK David S, fair enough. You are free to believe what you want but sorry, not that this will bother you, but I'm not signing up mate.<BR/><BR/>I find it really interesting however the outporing of anger towards men like DS and DI from the general public. Words expressed in public that are more hostile than those in relation to killer Tony bLiars slaughter of over 1,000,000 Iraqi people.<BR/><BR/>I'll respect his opinion or I'd be a hypocrit. Hope its not infectious! :s<BR/><BR/>- lwAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-21983389965767892892007-08-13T04:26:00.000+01:002007-08-13T04:26:00.000+01:007) Somebody is fucking with his headand I wouldn't...7) Somebody is fucking with his head<BR/><BR/>and I wouldn't be so quick to discount #4 as being a major contributory factor - there's something distinctly shroomy/ psychotropic about this business<BR/><BR/>and yes, DI is far from insaneStefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.com