tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post6489964925494649459..comments2023-10-18T16:25:13.593+01:00Comments on Famous for 15 megapixels: ChristiansStefhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-34095746651322444562008-01-01T18:09:00.000+00:002008-01-01T18:09:00.000+00:00I'm on of those people whose skepticism of Darwini...I'm on of those people whose skepticism of Darwinism is not a result of my belief in Allah.Shahidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14555080365070123707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-37912705799778226792007-12-31T16:13:00.000+00:002007-12-31T16:13:00.000+00:00@HWPI am one of those people in a small minority w...@HWP<BR/><BR/>I am one of those people in a small minority who think that Darwinism is nonsense but who doesn't fill in that gap with a belief in a benevolent deity<BR/><BR/>Just because it may be possible to discern suggestions of deliberate design in the Universe that in no way supports the conclusion that the Universe was put there for Our benefit.<BR/><BR/>A toilet brush is a designed object but that doesn't mean that it was brought into existence for its own sake<BR/><BR/>So, in short, I'm personally inclined to agree with you<BR/><BR/>but, there again, I'm not a ChristianStefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-24122147010985783572007-12-31T12:06:00.000+00:002007-12-31T12:06:00.000+00:00Stef. You make the classic mistake in your underst...Stef. You make the classic mistake in your understanding of Jesus by looking upon what he taught as being for our benefit, in effect a humanist gospel. What Jesus preached was the principles of the Kingdom of God. Jesus is a fix for God's problem and we humans are God's problem.<BR/><BR/>The offer of eternal life isn't something we're to earn by doing good deeds. It is a choice given us - live for God and you will have eternal life. If you choose to live apart from God then what interest does God have in you?<BR/><BR/>We've fucked up and God has said that he is going to do away with this world at some point in order to start over. And rather than wiping us all out he is giving us the chance to be part of it. God doing things his way, not ours.<BR/><BR/>It is a fundamental error that we consistantly make that we try to understand God from our position and not from his. God created this universe and us for whatever reason he did it. But you can be sure it wasn't for us that he did it.<BR/><BR/>What that guy said to you was partially correct in that he is right to preach the gospel so as people can hear it and make a decision to either accept God or reject him. But if people don't hear then he's wasting his time. The idea of attaining salvation points is utter nonsense. He is living by his own rules and believing himself to be right with God. Such behaviour can only be a disappointment to God.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-35767553124058064072007-12-31T02:43:00.000+00:002007-12-31T02:43:00.000+00:00A load of apolitical, ideology-free nonsense that ...<I>A load of apolitical, ideology-free nonsense that more than makes up for the fact that the Zeitgeist film doesn't blame a Communist Conspiracy for everything that's wrong with the world.</I><BR/><BR/>or blame religion for everything that's wrong with the world<BR/><BR/>I bang on about Richard Dawkins a lot because he is a figurehead for a particular strain of fundamentalist secularism which commits exactly the same sins as the worst manifestations of Sky God belief<BR/><BR/>There's a particular piece he wrote only a few days after 9/11 (which I've already linked to in the post) that sums up just how much of cunt he really is...<BR/><BR/>http://tinyurl.com/gjo3y<BR/><BR/>Yeah, yeah, let's all keep blaming the wrong people for what's wrong with the world and keep business ticking over as usualStefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-46734147379726502512007-12-31T02:35:00.000+00:002007-12-31T02:35:00.000+00:00Alex,Yes, we are all human and Christians do have ...Alex,<BR/><BR/>Yes, we are all human and Christians do have a high benchmark to aspire to<BR/><BR/>But, to be honest, and taking your stereotypical US Fundamentalist as an example I'm convinced that large numbers of people who claim to be Christian aren't even trying<BR/><BR/>And it's frankly amazing that such a simple, commonsense message has become so corrupted over the centuries<BR/><BR/>There's a group of evangelicals who 'preach' around the West End area of London. They basically just stand in crowds and rant away in such a manner that nobody could ever really hear what they're saying.<BR/><BR/>I got chatting to one once and he explained to me that he believed that his mission was to bring the Word of God to a certain number of people, I forget how many thousand, and that once he'd met his quota he'd be guaranteed a place in Heaven.<BR/><BR/>And a passer-by just hearing a fragment of what he was preaching was enough to count on the salvation scoreboard. I asked the guy what happened to the people who heard a few of his words as they passed by but didn't do anything about it...<BR/><BR/>'They won't get into Heaven'<BR/><BR/>He wasn't trying to save anybody by example of by performing unconditional acts of compassion. He was trying to book his ticket to the Afterlife at the expense of thousands of other people<BR/><BR/>It's almost worth believing in Hell just to picture that fucker cooking in it<BR/><BR/>WTF has selfish, wicked thinking like that got to do with Jesus and his teachings?Stefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-26147861112932247442007-12-29T19:02:00.000+00:002007-12-29T19:02:00.000+00:00I'm glad you mentioned the Zeitgeist film as, whil...I'm glad you mentioned the Zeitgeist film as, while a lot of it is very good, particularly the first third even though there's nothing new in it, like most other things that purport to offer 'truth' it goes a little awry in a number of places in the usual "98% truthiness Vs 2% utter shit" fashion that renders any valid points contained in the film largely null and void.<BR/><BR/>More was revealed in an interview with Peter J 'Zeitgeist' (a Rense effort, if memory serves) in which Peter J. rather cleverly and subtly, almost to the point that you wouldn't really notice unless you were paying attention, said the following:<BR/><BR/><I>".... therefore Class status. <B>Class issues are extremely, extremely horrific</B>, y'know, <B>that's exactly what they're preying upon right now</B> because, in a kind of <B>an abstract notion</B>, these <B>class identifications that we have in society are going to be extrapolated and used against us</B> when they finally push for a feudalist system, where <B>you're going to have a divide almost right down the middle</B> where you have <B>the people that are going to join these horrific y'know organisations that are going to basically be monitoring everything, the Gestapos</B> and everything else, <B>and you're going to have the poor public that is going to be enslaved</B>."</I><BR/><BR/>Ho ho ho! Black and white. No shades of grey. Bollocks. A load of apolitical, ideology-free nonsense that more than makes up for the fact that the Zeitgeist film doesn't blame a Communist Conspiracy for everything that's wrong with the world.<BR/><BR/>Maybe Peter J Zeitgeist should explain his take on class issues to <A HREF="http://stefzucconi.blogspot.com/2007/11/middle-class-proletariat.html" REL="nofollow">the M.o.D</A> who, seemingly, are quite worried about the very same class issues that Peter J. writes off as yet another tool of the New World Order.The Antagonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-35133518635699424862007-12-29T16:13:00.000+00:002007-12-29T16:13:00.000+00:00Well, for what it's worth, I am probably one of th...Well, for what it's worth, I am probably one of those <I>shit Christians</I> you mention.<BR/><BR/>I think anyone looking to analyze Christ by looking at Christians is going to be disappointed. If you were to read my blog or observe me for long enough you would get the opinion that Jesus was an ignorant, opinionated ass.<BR/><BR/>The fact is, as you have indicated, we are all human, those who "follow the Christ" are simply humans that have chosen that path. They are going to be weak and wrong on occasion.<BR/><BR/>I think if you do choose to separate yourself and join a sect, cult, religion or club, the most important thing is to remember this fact, that you are still human. Indeed, Paul already covers this in the bible when he reminds his readers what they were and where they came from. It's sad that many 'Christians' don't read the scriptures enough and patiently meditate on their true meanings, however once again we come back to the fact they are human.<BR/><BR/>Churches that don't welcome all people regardless of sexuality, race etc. aren't welcoming God. Yes there are standards given to live by, yes there is such a thing as sin, but the whole point of Jesus is that sin no longer separates anyone from God.<BR/><BR/>I digress. Good post. I didn't have a chance to watch the whole documentary but we'd all learn a lot more from researching our beliefs and seeing if they stand up to scrutiny.<BR/><BR/>(Sorry but having trouble getting OpenID to work)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com