tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post3900894020988778272..comments2023-10-18T16:25:13.593+01:00Comments on Famous for 15 megapixels: You're a big daft cockStefhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-46416522645306350232007-05-05T22:50:00.000+01:002007-05-05T22:50:00.000+01:00The word Conspiracy, I think, gives the wrong impr...The word Conspiracy, I think, gives the wrong impression<BR/><BR/>but the kind of people and groups who would benefit include<BR/><BR/>- Oil companies looking to sell less oil but at a higher price...<BR/><BR/>- Anyone with an anti-industrialist or anti-humanist agenda...<BR/><BR/>- People who enjoy crusades because it makes them feel important...<BR/><BR/>- Any groups of bastards who get hard thinking about running the world through multinational organisations they control<BR/><BR/>that's just for startersStefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-4554857320323539632007-04-30T02:36:00.000+01:002007-04-30T02:36:00.000+01:00If it's a conspiracy, who profits?If it's a conspiracy, who profits?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-91333036157212505592007-03-22T19:38:00.000+00:002007-03-22T19:38:00.000+00:00@LucretiusI'd agree with pretty much everything yo...@Lucretius<BR/><BR/>I'd agree with pretty much everything you took time to say here. And I don't believe that the majority of people expressing scepticism about Man Made Global Warming are advocating complacency about the way we treat the environment. I certainly don't.<BR/><BR/>But it's increasingly clear that there are many individuals and organisations who have absolutely no problem with ramping up hysteria about GW to serve their own objectives. They're the people I have a big issue with, not the majority of ordinary decent folk who are waking up to the fact that some things have to change.Stefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-43098475827794214542007-03-22T19:31:00.000+00:002007-03-22T19:31:00.000+00:00@sam - you've got my number.And be careful with th...@sam - you've got my number.<BR/><BR/>And be careful with those polar bears - they're one of the few creatures on this planet known to actively stalk people as prey. They're vicious fuckers.Stefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-20226447914313675242007-03-22T16:29:00.000+00:002007-03-22T16:29:00.000+00:00@davidI've just had a look at your collection and ...@david<BR/><BR/>I've just had a look at your collection and one of the issues it brought to mind is the sea level thing...<BR/><BR/>A couple of points worth bearing in mind about sea level that aren't usually communicated to 'lay' people by the GW lobby<BR/><BR/>Sometimes its not the sea level that moves up or down - it's the land. Continents and islands move up and down too.<BR/><BR/>Sea level is not the same all over the world. The earth is not an homogeneous sphere and differing parts of its surface are subject to differing gravitational 'pulls' - the surface of the sea includes some fairly hefty peaks and troughs that only started being identified with the implementation of GPS technology<BR/><BR/>So when folk start talking about past sea level changes they're best digested with a minimum of two pinches of saltStefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-14701446497022496212007-03-22T15:42:00.000+00:002007-03-22T15:42:00.000+00:00@tonyWell, quite.The record suggests that some oth...@tony<BR/><BR/>Well, quite.<BR/><BR/>The record suggests that some other factor both started <I>and stopped</I> past temperature rises, feedback or no feedback.<BR/><BR/>If I were a C02=GW advocate (as opposed to GW=CO2) I'd probably stop referring to that ice core data...Stefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-62348823863971513702007-03-21T20:44:00.000+00:002007-03-21T20:44:00.000+00:00"Some (currently unknown) process causes Antarctic..."Some (currently unknown) process causes Antarctica and the surrounding ocean to warm. This process also causes CO2 to start rising, about 800 years later. Then CO2 further warms the whole planet, because of its heat-trapping properties. This leads to even further CO2 release. So CO2 during ice ages should be thought of as a "feedback"."<BR/><BR/>I guess, one think that is currently unknown as well is:<BR/><BR/>How the fuck did this "feedback" stop. <BR/><BR/>I guess magic and an intelligent designer are valid explanations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-80650086520669937262007-03-21T01:35:00.000+00:002007-03-21T01:35:00.000+00:00One more for the team. You can see my digest at ht...One more for the team. You can see my digest at http://groups.msn.com/davidskingsburycollection/globalwarmingyoudecide.msnw which took a few years to compile from many more articles. How long will it take before the actual case swings towards the truth considering since the C4 programme the pendulum has begun to return from the extreme left. The trouble is the belivers treat it like a religion and react the same as if you were dissing Allah. I'll probably do that next actually, except I'd like to see tomorrow...Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16062717140344359936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-18230808521511923832007-03-20T10:21:00.000+00:002007-03-20T10:21:00.000+00:00Stef? I take it you're not convinced when Al Gore...Stef? I take it you're not convinced when Al Gore says that Greenland melting will cause the oceans to rise 20ft then??<BR/>Hmmm. You probably also didn't believe that Saddam Hussein was about to nuke the USA either.<BR/><BR/>I'm off to the zoo now to ask the polar bears how they manage to cope with just a slab of concrete to lie on and an outdoor paddling pool to wiggle their toes in?? <BR/><BR/>I anticipate they're going to remind me of that holiday I once had at the seaside in Yugoslavia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-38941030486424577352007-03-20T02:43:00.000+00:002007-03-20T02:43:00.000+00:00Save the planet with your PC! http://www.localcool...Save the planet with your PC! http://www.localcooling.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-81485849887699732092007-03-20T02:35:00.000+00:002007-03-20T02:35:00.000+00:00You're probably right about the climate models. I ...You're probably right about the climate models. I agree also that what is remarkable is not that the Earth might at some time become uninhabitable but that it has not long since become uninhabitable.<BR/><BR/>But if the long-continued viability of life on Earth appears near miraculous, that only strengthens the belief that we might very well make things unnecessarily uncomfortable for ourselves if we don't watch what we are doing. <BR/><BR/>In particular, I would say that changing the composition of a significant component of the atmosphere without considering what effect it will have is fairly stupid. <BR/><BR/>In the old days, before climate modelling became a big business, folks estimated that doubling atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration would, all other things being equal -- which obviously they will not be, raise mean global temperature by about 0.6 C.<BR/><BR/>This is not an inference from a model tuned with multiple parameters to fit someone's preconception of how the model should work. It is a simple deduction based on spectroscopy. <BR/><BR/>Is a 0.6 C increase in temperature significant? I dunno. But I don't mind if some pretty intelligent people are paid to think about that and also the possible positive or negative feedbacks that might enhance or negate the effect. <BR/><BR/>Likewise, it seems smart to consider impacts of particulate emissions, smoke from nuclear wars, synthetic chemicals in drinking water and various other potentially noxious efffects of human activity.<BR/><BR/>Possibly more important than the effect of a doubling in atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration on the climate is its effect on the biosphere. The effect may be good or bad, but it will be enormous. <BR/><BR/>Why? Because plants exchange carbon dioxide for water through diffusion. Water loss is a necessary cost of photosynthesis, and photosynthesis of most plants is water limited. When they run out of water they stop exchanging gases and so stop photosynthesizing. That means, if you increase the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, you increase plant growth because gas exchange can continue longer and faster without leading to desiccation of the plant. <BR/><BR/>Theoretically, provided the plants adapt to the change, a doubling in CO2 concentration will double photosynthetic production in most ecosystems. <BR/><BR/>That is a big change. I am in favor of some smart people thinking about what that means. <BR/><BR/>It would be best, though, if they worked out of the public eye. When discussion becomes politicized -- and I would say that name calling is proof of politicization of the debate -- nothing useful is likely to emerge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-28782391314868703782007-03-19T17:15:00.000+00:002007-03-19T17:15:00.000+00:00... Brown and Cameron are busy working on their ow...... Brown and Cameron are busy working on their own versionsStefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-13213966125740177272007-03-19T17:12:00.000+00:002007-03-19T17:12:00.000+00:00Greetings strangerYes indeedThere's a Universal La...Greetings stranger<BR/><BR/>Yes indeed<BR/><BR/>There's a Universal Law which states that the level of Truth contained within in any given statement is inversely proportional to the number of times Tony Blair repeats itStefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-56211860772787962642007-03-19T17:06:00.000+00:002007-03-19T17:06:00.000+00:00Indeed.It's just struck me in the last few days: t...<A HREF="http://pigstyave.blogspot.com/2007/03/have-you-noticed.html" REL="nofollow">Indeed</A>.<BR/><BR/>It's just struck me in the last few days: this global warming malarkey is all bollocks. And even if it isn't, there's fuck all I can do about it. <BR/><BR/>The fact that Brown and Cameron are fighting to get onto the same bandwagon speaks volumes.Garry Nixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15695932789922262374noreply@blogger.com