tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post3743487364737712270..comments2023-10-18T16:25:13.593+01:00Comments on Famous for 15 megapixels: 'Christian' DoublethinkStefhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comBlogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-15209024888538209942011-08-07T16:51:15.434+01:002011-08-07T16:51:15.434+01:00These lost souls of wanting credulity and noxious ...<i>These lost souls of wanting credulity and noxious certitude believe their shame is their ticket back to paradise…If only they could just hate themselves (and the world enough) — then they will be made perfect in the perfect love of The Lord. They are, of course, insane.<br /><br />Accordingly, what events and circumstances are responsible for this free-floating psychotic episode extant as the belief system of contemporary, fundamentalist Christianity?<br /><br />“And all the Arts of Life they changed into the Arts of Death in Albion.” — Jerusalem, Chapter 3 William Blake</i><br /><br /><a href="javascript:void(0);" rel="nofollow">“The Arts Of Life They Changed Into The Arts Of Death:” Bachmann, Palin and Robertson and the limits of logic</a>Bridgethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04220942517267393608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-21173695047706451812011-07-30T18:14:14.437+01:002011-07-30T18:14:14.437+01:00@Bridget
I'm hoping to get more documents fro...@Bridget<br /><br />I'm hoping to get more documents from the hearing next week.<br /><br />I'm also considering making a complaint to the court for (i) not making the document available electronically, (ii) charging GBP10 for it, and (iii) its pathetic quality (spelling errors, inconsistent spelling of names throughout Siddell/Siddall).gyg3shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08295092807711672726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-84311504585039758122011-07-30T10:54:53.577+01:002011-07-30T10:54:53.577+01:00"Anyone know anything about this 'one wor..."Anyone know anything about this 'one world religion'?"<br /><br />The authors of the 'Left Behind' series know all about it...<br /><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_Babylon_One_World_Faith" rel="nofollow">Enigma Babylon One World Faith</a>Stefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-50477908640414093572011-07-30T10:45:14.409+01:002011-07-30T10:45:14.409+01:00Mention of the Book of Daniel, 7th Day Adventists ...Mention of the Book of Daniel, 7th Day Adventists and End Times invariably obliges me in my usual Pavlovian way to post a link to<br /><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Disappointment" rel="nofollow">The Great Disappointment</a>Stefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-23904012138715213822011-07-30T10:41:34.697+01:002011-07-30T10:41:34.697+01:00The Claimant is particularly concerned with part o...<i>The Claimant is particularly concerned with part of the secret agenda of the New World Order which is the obliteration of bible believing Christianity under a one world religion. </i><br /><br />Anyone know anything about this 'one world religion'?Bridgethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04220942517267393608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-884456658020078572011-07-30T10:38:27.209+01:002011-07-30T10:38:27.209+01:005.2 During his evidence, it became clear that the ...<i>5.2 During his evidence, it became clear that the Claimant is an adherent to what may be termed “End Time” theological views. That is to say that he has become an adherent to a relatively well recognised strand of, particularly, Protestant Christian theology which, basing itself in large measure upon the Book of Daniel and the Book of Revelations, concludes that the end of the world will be presaged by the rising up of something called the New World Order. Mr Farrell's own religious convictions have moved over time. He was brought up a Roman Catholic but relatively recently has become a convert to Methodism and even more recently, based upon his reading of the bible and other texts, has come to hold the End Time theological views outlined above. A full explanation of the Claimant's beliefs in this regard is set out at paragraphs 5 to 10. At paragraph 10 the Claimant says<br /><br />“I accept that this is not mainstream Christian interpretation but nevertheless it is seen as a valid belief within Christian theology. Such beliefs are arguably most closely match that of a Seventh Day Adventist.”</i><br /><br /><a href="http://nodeinthenoosphere.blogspot.com/2011/07/farrell-v-south-yorkshire-police.html" rel="nofollow">Node in the Noosphere: Farrell v South Yorkshire Police Authority 2011</a>Bridgethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04220942517267393608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-47438720952932567682011-07-25T17:34:30.242+01:002011-07-25T17:34:30.242+01:00I'm reminded of a passage in Catch-22 where Yo...I'm reminded of a passage in Catch-22 where Yossarian and a girlfriend, both self-avowed atheists, are arguing about what kind of god they don't believe in. She doesn't believe in a kindly, white-haired grandfather figure. He doesn't believe in a vindictive old sadist who invented toothache and cancer. She gets quite upset and bursts into tearsStefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-71789624125119599032011-07-25T17:31:10.204+01:002011-07-25T17:31:10.204+01:00Gnostics saw a contradiction sure enough and had t...<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism" rel="nofollow">Gnostics</a> saw a contradiction sure enough and had their feet warmed as a reward<br /><br />"I'm not clear what the contradiction is. There are said to be 162 references to Hell in the NT. "<br /><br />I haven't counted but, as discussed previously, the New Testament includes a little more than accounts of Jesus' life and teachings. It is riddled with additions and alterations. And returning to Bish Tutu the spirit of Christ is more spiritual carrot than stick<br /><br />Yahweh is big on stick and, as I recall, Heaven doesn't get much of a look-in in the OT<br /><br />The few times I've asked scholarly orthodox Jews about their take on immortal souls and the afterlife their response was on the fuzzy sideStefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-88868918363560467052011-07-25T17:04:12.349+01:002011-07-25T17:04:12.349+01:00Re: the "contradiction between Old God"
...Re: the "contradiction between Old God"<br /><br />I'm not clear what the contradiction is. There are said to be 162 references to Hell in the NT. <br /><br />Here are a few from Luke 16:<br /><br /> 22 . . . the rich man also died, and was buried;<br /><br /> 23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.<br /><br /> 24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.<br /><br /> 25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.<br /><br /> 26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.<br /><br /> 27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father’s house:<br /><br /> 28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. (Luke 16:22-28)CShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03399620869685840906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-35060877263526973382011-07-25T13:43:11.435+01:002011-07-25T13:43:11.435+01:00Theres a reason the priests were so upset about tr...Theres a reason the priests were so upset about translating the bible and printing it so the masses could read it themselves.paulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-30982601057499178562011-07-25T13:35:10.426+01:002011-07-25T13:35:10.426+01:00I could run off at a tangent at this point and chi...I could run off at a tangent at this point and chip in that the Christ narrative was maybe an attempt to put a full stop at the end of the practice of ritual sacrifice which characterised pre-Christian religions<br /><br />The death of the Son of God was the ritual sacrifice to end all ritual sacrifices<br /><br />The Old Testament is, of course, full of ritual sacrifice - both explicit and implicit, including my personal favourite in Judges 16...<br /><br /><i>Now the house was full of men and women; and all the lords of the Philistines were there; and there were upon the roof <b>about three thousand men and women</b>, that beheld while Samson made sport.<br /><br />And Samson called unto the LORD, and said, O Lord God, remember me, I pray thee, and strengthen me, I pray thee, only this once, O God, that I may be at once avenged of the Philistines for my two eyes.<br /><br />And Samson took hold of the <b>two middle pillars</b> upon which the house stood, and on which it was borne up, of the one with his right hand, and of the other with his left.<br /><br />And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with all his might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that were therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life</i>Stefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-6569510572909609892011-07-25T13:14:09.344+01:002011-07-25T13:14:09.344+01:00@Canspeccy
Back in the day, there were many Chris...@Canspeccy<br /><br />Back in the day, there were many Christian sects, most notably the Cathars, who squared the apparent contradiction between Old God and New God by concluding that Old God was Satan...<br /><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharism#Theology" rel="nofollow"><i>The God found in the Old Testament had nothing to do with the God of Love known to Cathars. The Old Testament God had created the world as a prison, and demanded from the "prisoners" fearful obedience and worship. The Cathari claimed that this god was in fact a blind usurper who under the most false pretexts, tormented and murdered those whom he called, all too possessively, "his children". The false god was, by the Cathari, called Rex Mundi, or The King of the World.</i><br /></a><br /><br />This particular theological debate was resolved to the satisfaction of the Church of Rome in the usual time-honoured fashion...<br /><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnaud_Amalric#Albigensian_Crusade" rel="nofollow"><i>Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius</i></a>Stefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-66732884555636213992011-07-25T03:13:04.729+01:002011-07-25T03:13:04.729+01:00"The Old Testament only being retained as a r..."The Old Testament only being retained as a reminder of how awful the old one was "<br /><br />My Christian education included a good dose of Old Testament taught as the truth: Pharaoh's order to kill the newborn Hebrew boys, little Moses set adrift in the bulrush basket, the Lord appearing to Moses in the burning bush, etc. <br /><br />On the whole I found these old Jewish legends more interesting than the miracles, the beatitudes, and even the parables. <br /><br />I cannot see how Christianity would retain any credibility without the Old Testament, but if so, does that not mean that we have to accept God as a distinctly bipolar individual: a mixture of old bastard and loving father.CShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03399620869685840906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-55453754677118991872011-07-25T01:39:39.238+01:002011-07-25T01:39:39.238+01:00I've started doubting that of lateI've started doubting that of lateStefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-73172286844123763182011-07-24T23:14:34.285+01:002011-07-24T23:14:34.285+01:00"One thing I am sure of is that the narrative..."One thing I am sure of is that the narrative most commentators will settle on will be the one that best fits their existing world view"<br /><br />Everybody creating their own reality. LOL<br /><br />but I thought that post-modernism was kind of passé. Ain't no one interested in what actually happened?CShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03399620869685840906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-74171614534624748612011-07-24T23:07:26.732+01:002011-07-24T23:07:26.732+01:00One thing I am sure of is that the narrative most ...One thing I am sure of is that the narrative most commentators will settle on will be the one that best fits their existing world view - and they're currently working hard looking for 'evidence' which supports their preferred narrativeStefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-7947653824017597282011-07-24T23:02:59.352+01:002011-07-24T23:02:59.352+01:00or this atrocity as carried out by a genuine nutte...or this atrocity as carried out by a genuine nutter with fucked up mental wiring who'd find any old excuse to go on a murder spree<br /><br />that sort of this <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman" rel="nofollow">used to be</a> quite popular<br /><br />it does happen spontaneously sometimes, like earthquakes<br /><br />or maybe it as Rupert Murdoch looking to knock the hacking scandal off the world's headlines. Maybe he offed Amy Winehouse as well<br /><br />or maybe it was done by the Israelis (Zionist links to EDL discussed previously) - though David Duke is also associated with the EDL and people here have assured me that he's sound as a pound when it comes to giving The Jews short shrift and being on the side of the angels<br /><br />and then there's the question why would The Jews initiate a mind-controlled false flag op which discredits the very ideologies they've been working like bastards to cultivate?Stefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-11752449864713143262011-07-24T22:34:53.425+01:002011-07-24T22:34:53.425+01:00Ha! I thought Sun readers were all wankers.
In a...Ha! I thought Sun readers were all <a href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/3227771/The-Sun-celebrates-40-years-of-Page-3-girls.html" rel="nofollow">wankers</a>. <br /><br />In any case, there seem to be only two widely promoted alternative explanations of the Breivik atrocity. <br /><br />Either Al Qaeda did it, which implies Muzzies did it, but could be inside job since Al Qaeda are now back on side in Libya. <br /><br />Or it was far right wing extremists, i.e., opponents of mass immigration to Europe, i.e., any of the two thirds of Europe's population that don't want to see a minaret on every hilltop in England's (France's, etc.) green and pleasant land.<br /><br />The second is apparently Craig Murray's take, as he links Breivik with the EDL.CShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03399620869685840906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-77550944657673731162011-07-24T22:15:05.370+01:002011-07-24T22:15:05.370+01:00You might think that
I might think that
But I su...You might think that<br /><br />I might think that<br /><br />But I suspect The Sun's editorial team and most of its readers wouldn't<br /><br />As somebody once said (the day before yesterday)...<br /><br /><a href="http://conspiraloon.blogspot.com/2011/07/new-face-of-mythical-al-qaida.html" rel="nofollow"><i>"You have to remember that The Sun is written by c*nts for c*nts."</i></a>Stefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-70093855740225310922011-07-24T22:07:01.403+01:002011-07-24T22:07:01.403+01:00"I think the issue with the Sun headline was ..."I think the issue with the Sun headline was the phrase<br /><br />'Al-Qaeda' Massacre"<br /><br />Well if it was Al Qaeda, doesn't that confirm it was an inside job?CShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03399620869685840906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-20615034040177030112011-07-24T11:47:46.358+01:002011-07-24T11:47:46.358+01:00"But if 9/11 was a false flag, is not the par..."But if 9/11 was a false flag, is not the parallel appropriate?"<br /><br />I think the issue with the Sun headline was the phrase<br /><br />'Al-Qaeda' Massacre<br /><br />just above the 9/11 bit<br /><br />There's no reason to single out The Sun - lots of expert terror pundits feasted themselves on those ever so flexible <a href="http://conspiraloon.blogspot.com/2011/07/analysis.html" rel="nofollow">hallmarks of Al-Qaeda</a>Stefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-15878762221727934092011-07-24T11:23:18.044+01:002011-07-24T11:23:18.044+01:00♫ He was a fungus among us ♫<i>♫ He was a fungus among us ♫ </i>Stefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-44516321671561551292011-07-24T11:11:10.415+01:002011-07-24T11:11:10.415+01:00No mushrooms™ were harmed in the production of th...<a href="http://conspiraloon.blogspot.com/2011/06/no-mushrooms-were-harmed-in-production.html" rel="nofollow">No mushrooms™ were harmed in the production of this song™ / religion™ / belief™ system™</a>The Antagochristhttp://antagonise.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-40371688963978054672011-07-24T01:03:23.786+01:002011-07-24T01:03:23.786+01:00"Jesus invented a modified God, more father t..."Jesus invented a modified God, more father than despot, which was an improvement. But the evangelicals pick and choose from the New and the Old Testaments, and always preferring the Old Testament when it comes to Hell and damnation for their opponents."<br /><br />Yes they do<br /><br />And in doing so forget that the whole point of Jesus' appearance was supposedly to forge a New Covenant between Man and God<br /><br />The Old Testament only being retained as a reminder of how awful the old one wasStefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-47482276353000759002011-07-24T00:47:19.622+01:002011-07-24T00:47:19.622+01:00Craig Murray thinks it outrageous that the Sun cal...<a href="http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/07/why-murdoch-is-not-a-fit-and-proper-person/" rel="nofollow">Craig Murray thinks it outrageous</a> that the Sun called the Norwegian atrocity, "Norway's 9/11." But if 9/11 was a false flag, is not the parallel appropriate?CShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03399620869685840906noreply@blogger.com