tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post112078604116260595..comments2023-10-18T16:25:13.593+01:00Comments on Famous for 15 megapixels: Londoners recount horrors: Tell us your story pt2Stefhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-1120867755869484662005-07-09T01:09:00.000+01:002005-07-09T01:09:00.000+01:00gg: btw what's happening to your blog? - I'm getti...gg: btw what's happening to your blog? - I'm getting wordpress errors and no elightenmentStefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-1120867629248256282005-07-09T01:07:00.000+01:002005-07-09T01:07:00.000+01:00@gg: Yes, a lot of us do mistrust our government, ...@gg: Yes, a lot of us do mistrust our government, even fear it. I'm not saying everyone, just a lot. The same applies to America but many people there are more constitionally aware and the battle lines are clearer.<BR/><BR/>Re. your lot joining in on the party - what do you reckon G8 is all about? Or can anyone really believe that George Bush and his buddies really give a damn about the poor of the world?Stefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-1120849312569992812005-07-08T20:01:00.000+01:002005-07-08T20:01:00.000+01:00Hi StefGlad to hear that you and yours are okay.Th...Hi Stef<BR/><BR/>Glad to hear that you and yours are okay.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for a very interesting post. What is really scary is that it seems you have more to fear from your own government then you do from the terrorists. <BR/><BR/>Just where does it end though? What does it take for the government to realise that they are here to serve the citizens of their country and not make themselves all powerful? <BR/><BR/>I suppose I should be glad, for the time being at least. Here our MPs and Ministers are far to busy gratifying their own personal whims and wishes to give any thought to how much fun they could have if they totally controlled us. <BR/><BR/>Then again we've had ID books (like ID cards) forever and most dealings with the Department of Home Affairs requires that they take your finger prints. <BR/><BR/>I guess once the lure of 4x4s and luxury jets wear off we're in for a treatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-1120845483189187852005-07-08T18:58:00.000+01:002005-07-08T18:58:00.000+01:00btw andy: don't you think it's peculiar how so few...btw andy: don't you think it's peculiar how so few news outlets have picked up on the fact that the trains and bus all passed through the same place within a narrow time frame?<BR/><BR/>They will eventually, but at the moment the message being rammed down our throat is one of a well-manned, well synchronised 'Al Qaeda' style operation. So, if the news don't fit, don't print it ...Stefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-1120844152846683482005-07-08T18:35:00.000+01:002005-07-08T18:35:00.000+01:00@ukwarrior/northernmunki: There are alternative gr...@ukwarrior/northernmunki: There are alternative groups of fanaticists capable of doing something like this and who benefit very directly from the consequences. Just think about it for a minute or two.<BR/><BR/>And if you're still stuck ask a Muslim/ Arab if they can think of a group willing to spill innocent blood so that the armies of America and Britain will attack and occupy their homes.<BR/><BR/>Whenever anything like this happens the question to ask always is 'who benefits?'. There are many, many 'false flag' operations from history. From the Reichstag Fire to Bologna Station bombing. Don't trust the media to ever raise the possibility. They are owned.<BR/><BR/>@andy: absolutely, it is about politics, not religion<BR/><BR/>Ok, you heard me out and disagree. Fair enough. If events unfold as I expect them to you might remember a couple of things that I said down the line. If they don't, it's possible that I might see the light - but judging by all the crap that's being said and printed today I'll put money on my line of thinking being vindicatedStefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-1120840408289169512005-07-08T17:33:00.000+01:002005-07-08T17:33:00.000+01:00Don't agree mate, but it's your Blog and thank god...Don't agree mate, but it's your Blog and thank god we can still voice our opinions. Yeah I know it's not perfect...Blair=Twat Bush twat, CCTV, etc etc blah bah. <BR/><BR/>It's all about politics...religion is just the cover that these mad men tack onto their insane thoughts (spelling mistakes and all).<BR/><BR/>Anyway I'm off to London on monday. Look after yourself mate<BR/><BR/>andyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-1120795379391159162005-07-08T05:02:00.000+01:002005-07-08T05:02:00.000+01:00@z: Thanks, though you do me more credit than I de...@z: Thanks, though you do me more credit than I deserve. I honestly don't know if my view is correct but it fits events and and peoples' actions better than the dung Bush and Blair have been shovelling.<BR/><BR/>One thing I did learn from 9/11 was to sit on the news as it came in and look out for any changes that are made as the day plays out. When something as major as this happens, controlling the media output to fit the message sometimes has to be retrospective.<BR/><BR/>The BBC recently introduced a time delay to its news coverage. That will have helped. Plus, there was a shortage of imagery of the incident scenes in London on the web yesterday. Bizarre when you think that everyone carries a cameraphone these days.<BR/><BR/>A good example of news editing from yesterday was an AP story that Benjamin Netanyahu and the Israeli Embassy were warned of the bombs minutes *before* the first one exploded. As the day wore on, articles covering that story were changed one by one to say that the warning came a few minutes *after*. The only article I can find still in the first form is on Yahoo, though for how much longer I really don't know<BR/><BR/>http://tinyurl.com/asjkv<BR/><BR/>Even after editing, the story still stinks as it took an hour or two after the first blast for our police to be sure a bomb was involved<BR/><BR/>I expect the same thing will happen about the bogus 'Al Qaeda' website claim so many people, including our Foreign Secretary Jack Straw made so much play of today. It has got serious errors in it that no fundamentalist would make. Sooner or later, people will start asking who would benefit from putting something like that up. So, my money's on it being officially forgotten over the next couple of days. It served its initial purpose, helped sow a seed in peoples' minds and will be carefully dumped before it is subject to closer scrutiny ...<BR/><BR/>http://tinyurl.com/cts43<BR/><BR/>again, all very similar to some of those nonsense stories that came out immediately after 9/11. They served Bush's purposes and were subsequently thrown into the memory hole<BR/><BR/>-<BR/><BR/>We live in dark times and there are no leaders or icons we can look to for salvation. Not good<BR/><BR/>-<BR/><BR/>Back to bed now to see if I can grab some sleep this time ...Stefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01467757421113856218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8225855.post-1120788818823724452005-07-08T03:13:00.000+01:002005-07-08T03:13:00.000+01:00Pretty well figured, stef. and very calm and ratio...Pretty well figured, stef. and very calm and rational considering what you're going through over there. And we do know what you're going through. Of course, maybe you have the benefit of seeing what happened over here when we trusted our administration to lead us through our bad time. Or maybe you would have seen through that, too.<BR/><BR/>Osama bin Laden was supposed to have made some predictions about what would happen in the US as a result of 911. So far, he's been pretty much right and it didn't have to be that way. It wasn't inevitable. It was a failure of leadership and a failure on the part of the people's bullshit detection system.<BR/><BR/>I don't know that I don't believe Al Qaida exists. OTOH, I never considered the possibility before. But even if it exists, it doesn't make your analysis less correct.<BR/><BR/>I only hope that this horrible event serves to put your country on the right track instead of the road we're on here in the good old US of A.Patriciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01044265862232128796noreply@blogger.com